S.W.A.T. (all you need to know)

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everybody hold hands & sing

we shall overkill,
we shall overkill,
we shall overkill,
we shall overkill someday.
with my gun near my heart,a rifle in my hand,
we shall overkill some day
 
This movie, and any, that glamorizes JBT has got to be a POS! End of story.
 
Hmmmm...here's a thought. Maybe the movie really IS deserving of a bad review. If the Wall Street Journal and G. Gordon Liddy give it a thumbs down, will you all shut up? I haven't seen the movie, and I don't plan on seeing it. From what I've seen of the previews, though, it makes the "Leathal Weapon" series look like a bunch of documentaries..
 
My thoughts;

I loved the movie.
Lots of action, a fairly plausible plot, and a solid job by the cast added up to an enjoyable experience. The only complaint I have is the director's excessive use of the 'revolving camera' technique.


Pay attention when they're in the pizza joint celebrating passing their training exercise. Rod Perry has a cameo as Deacon Kay's (LL Cool J's character) father. Rod played Deacon on the TV show back in 1975.


Product placement is alive and well. When Street's girlfriend leaves him, she's packing up knicknacks into a carton for a Sony boombox and all of the consumer electronics used throughout the movie are Sonys. Of course, Sony owning the studio has nothing to do with this, right? :evil:

The guns. As others have said, it's lots of tricked out M4's, Kimber .45's, a few MP5's and a Benelli shotgun. A few Beretta 92F's also make an appearance.
In the original TV series, they carried 1911's in shoulder rigs and M16A1 rifles with a single 20 round magazine and no spares.

The SWAT van in the movie doesn't look like a repainted UPS truck like the one in the series did.


All in all, I find myself agreeing with Roger Ebert's review of the movie:"

"S.W.A.T." is a well-made police thriller, nothing more. No Academy Awards. But in a time when so many action pictures are mindless assaults on the eyes, ears and intelligence, it works as superior craftsmanship.

Read it here.

IMHO, the critics who pan it are just full of bull excrement. As usual.
 
"We need to return to an era of man on loud hailer saying "You are surrounded, come out with your hands up!"

Can we gun them down like they used to immediately following the token chance to surrender?
 
'S.W.A.T.'' goes out of its way to demonize entire inner-city neighborhoods too, and it pushes the talk-radio buttons with knuckleheaded glee. (Responding to a woman who chastises him for roughing up a suspect, Hondo snickers, ''Let's see how liberal you are when he's breaking into your house.'')
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Wasn't it LL Cool J (Ladies Love Cool James) who said that?

All the negative comments seem to be coming from folks who haven't seen the movie yet. Give it a fair shot, it's only entertainment.

As for heavyhanded JBT's, sure Godfather put a bunch of hoodlums as the heroes but it's just a movie, not social commentary....
 
hey blain I see where you are coming from. I went to see the movie w/ my JBT sensors on full alert. However, only one or two scenes struck me as totally JBT.
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The main one was when there was this crazy dude with a shotgun threatening to kill himself or the cops and so the SWAT officers used this device to seriously RIP a 8x8 chunk of his wall down and then send in SWAT dudes JBT-style. I was reminded of the hilarious scene in Brazil where they arrest "Buttle" and put him in the bag. The other was the somewhat large amount of striking people in custody by the "good guys."

I was pleasently suprised that when the rifle shoots down the helicopter they didn't make a big deal about it being a civilian legal 50 caliber snipter rifle that 'only leo should possess' or some such nonsense.

Did anyone notice any profoundly anti-gun messages or subtexts?

atek3
 
I just saw the movie and liked it a lot. More of a pop-corn flick than a serious movie. The gunplay was surprisingly decent for hollywood. Fingers were not on triggers and such. There were a few mistakes/things that bugged me:

1) The police chief calls a gun that the fake cops used to break into the bus "Fully Automatic AK-47's". Although I'm not 100% sure what type of guns they were using (looked like a mac or tec), they were obviously not AK's.

2) The 50 cal rifle used to shoot down the helicopter had what looked to be a suppressor on it (it was a huge freaking can sticking off the end of the barrel). Maybe I'm wrong but I didnt think they made suppressors for .50's. I mean, they can't be too effective... right?

3) While in the S.W.A.T. training facility, there was a sign behind Sam Jackson that said something like "Remember to keep all firearms out of the reach of children" and went on about criminal punishment. It just seemed really out of place in an "Elite Officer Training Facility". I would hope S.W.A.T. officers would know not to let the neighbors kids play with their M-4's and 1911's....

Besides that, the movie was good fun and action-packed. Compared to other movies in that genre, I would give it a 4 out of 5.
 
3) While in the S.W.A.T. training facility, there was a sign behind Sam Jackson that said something like "Remember to keep all firearms out of the reach of children" and went on about criminal punishment. It just seemed really out of place in an "Elite Officer Training Facility". I would hope S.W.A.T. officers would know not to let the neighbors kids play with their M-4's and 1911's....
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You see those signs everywhere in California--gun shops, shooting ranges, etc. It's some California law.

Not so much the officer's neighbors' kids, but the law covers the kids, but the officers' kids as well.
 
'S.W.A.T.'' goes out of its way to demonize entire inner-city neighborhoods too, and it pushes the talk-radio buttons with knuckleheaded glee. (Responding to a woman who chastises him for roughing up a suspect, Hondo snickers, ''Let's see how liberal you are when he's breaking into your house.'')
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Your right Skunkabilly, it was LL Cool J who said that. It's a good thing they actually watch the movie before they critisize it. :rolleyes:
 
The whole time I was waiting for the French guy to laugh, "Awww haww haww HAWWW!!!"

I didn't catch any anti-gun messages (overt or subliminal) from the movie, either. I was waiting for Hondo go Samuel L on somebody the whole time though.

Jackson to Farrell: "You know what they call the H&K MP5 in Germany? Der Heckler und Koch em-pay-foonf."
 
2) The 50 cal rifle used to shoot down the helicopter had what looked to be a suppressor on it (it was a huge freaking can sticking off the end of the barrel). Maybe I'm wrong but I didnt think they made suppressors for .50's. I mean, they can't be too effective... right?
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here's a sufficiently huge .50bmg Can

Big Can

I just saw the movie today and I thought it was pretty entertaining. It's pretty refreshing to see an action movie without any lame scenes of underlying psychological guilt complex or other heroic complexes.

I think probably the most unbelievable thing in the whole movie was when the thugs used LAW antitank rockets to blow up the cop cars.

What'd those guys do? knock off a National Guard Armory? Same with the Claymores.

Claymores? right....
 
Saw it last night. It was extremely enjoyable, because it didn't try to be anything more than the normal action movie with requisite redemption plot thrown in. Wasn't too over the top and didn't glorify JBTs at all. It put the right emphasis on SWAT being about saving lives, not taking them.

The only real gripes I had were the .308 masquerading as a .50, and the limp wristing with the .45s.

Oh, I loved the cameo at the end by the original show's commander, who was playing the SWAT van driver. It was the perfect ending.
 
Sorry in advance for sounding like an idiot. What exactly does JBT stand for? While I am at it I might as well ask what YMMV stands for too. Thanks in advance.

Trimation
 
Well I guess I was wrong on the .50 Suppressor (that is one freaking long can!!!). Although the one in the movie was a lot fatter and shorter (maybe that gives the same effect?)

Like I said, the movie was surprisingly decent. The ending-fight kinda sucked though.
 
Politically Incorrect Movie Reviews
S.W.A.T.
By RadioFree Rocky D


Cast:

Samuel Jackson (Hondo) - old school SWAT-mastuh.
Colin Farrell (Street) - new school SWAT-mastuh.
Larry Poindexter (Fuller) - evil whitey.
Oliver Martinez (Montel) - mo’ evil whitey.
Jeremy Renner (Gamble) - mo’ mo’ evil whitey.
Michelle Rodriguez (Sanchez) - tuff muff with salsa stuff.
LL Cool J (Deke) - Hey y’all … lookit my abs!

So right near the beginning of the movie, Officer Cool J (& his 6-pak-abs) chases down a creepy crook as a fat ghetto Momma yells at him, “Hey! Ain’t you got nuttin’ betta to do than t’put another brutha in jail? You perpetuatin’ the cycle!†Cool J (& his 6-pak-abs) shoves the perp into the back of a cruiser and snaps back at her, “We’ll see how liberal you are when he breaks into your place.†Whaaaaat? Did Hollyweird miss this politically incorrect line or are they testing us mere mortals in the “fly-over zone†just to see if we’re paying attention? This is the most politically incorrect movie line since Barber Shop made sport of Martin Luther King and Jesse Jackson - and that line also was uttered by a rap artiste (Cedric the Entertainer). So I gotta axe this question: Hey Hollyweird; are you feelin’ allright? Unfortunately, the rest of SWAT slides down into the “generic summer action flick†puddle. SWAT could easily be called Escape From New York meets “The B Team†- “B†for been there done that a million freakin’ times.

Right off the top I’ve got to say, yo LL Cool J (a shiny dime for those of you who know that stands for Ladies Love Cool James), isn’t it about time you started using your real name; James Smith? I means, you still fly, but you got the years now Hom’, so you can kick dat ol’ school name to the curb and start representin’ with the real deal. You be lampin’ and livin’ large in da man’s yard now, bro. You ain’t gotta be rockin the gold tooth no mo’ Big Willie style. Dig?

Here’s the plot of SWAT in a 9MM nutshell; an old SWAT-ster recruits a young SWAT team to transport a French terrorist across La La Land. The Bad Frenchy offers $100 million to anyone who can break him out. And this is where the PC starts. Who ever heard of a French tough guy (hockey players aside)? France hasn’t won a war since the French Revolution and the only reason they won that one is because they fought the French. There is no excuse anymore for Hollyweird not to know whom the terrorists are - all the movies currently coming out were made after 9/11. So whom does Hollyweird tag as the notorious bad guy? A Frenchy. Go figger.

The real evil force in the world is not Middle Eastern Muslim terrorists; it is diabolic Northern Europeans, second only in maleficence to American Caucasian Capitalists. I know this, because Hollyweird tells me so.

Imagine the squealing from the Arab-Anti-Defamation league if the truth was put on the big screen. Come to think of it, when was the last time you saw a Jewish bad guy on the silver screen? Hollyweird knows only one bad guy - Northern Europeans (or those descended thereof).

“American greed … you can always count on it,†sneers Bad Frenchy as every gangsta, goofball and gorilla in La La Land goes ape over his $100 million reward offer. This is the liberal’s view of American capitalism; that people will do anything for money, no matter how disgusting the task may be. While that may be true for The Jerry Springer Show, what the socialists don’t understand (methinks perhaps they do and lie about it) is that capitalism is not about making a huge windfall by doing an illegal deed. That’s called criminal activity (search: Hillary+Rose Law Firm); but the liberals don’t believe in criminality; there is no such thing as individual responsibility - especially pertaining to sacred non-American non-Caucasians. Capitalism is about working for what you get and the government keeping their hands off your wallet. The harder you work, the more diligent you are, the more likely you will succeed. That is what capitalism is. For that very reason, the liberals cannot stomach it.

Capitalism is greed. Greed is a bad thing (unless exploited by Hollyweird liberals and people named Clinton and Kennedy). Capitalism means that some people will have more stuff than others and that is not fair - even if some people work harder than others do. All people are of equal worth (except Hollyweird liberals and people named Clinton and Kennedy). I know this, because Hollyweird tells me so.

Naturally, there is an evil cabal of white-guys-with-guns that have big plans for Bad Frenchy’s $100 million breakout offer. Naturally, they’re ex-coppers with bad attitudes and bad drinking habits who would stab their former buddies in the backs first chance they get. You know them white-guys-with-guns; ya just cain’t trust ‘em.
Bad white-guys-with-guns! Bad bad bad!

But wait a minute; La La Land has gun control … how can there be so much shooting going on when the gun-grabbing liberals solved the gun violence problem with gun control?

More PC SWAT pishposh can be seen in a fat little comic foil character that manages the SWAT-sters equipment cage. This roly-poly, balding whitey informs us that he converted to Mormonism to make his wife happy. At work, he swills food and drinks forbidden by Mormon law. “Don’t tell muh wife ah’m doin’ this … she’d have muh head; hyuck hyuck hyuck,†chortles our portly pseudo-Mormon. Meanwhile, “Street†makes a few snide comments about the silliness of Mormonism. Now visualize the liberals wringing their hands and weeping if they changed the Mormon into an American Injun and “Street†was making fun of him praying to the God of the Wind while swinging a human scalp over his head. Imagine the squealing from the ADL if it was Jewish guy who snuck a pork chop into his lunch bucket as his work mate made sport of Jewish tradition.

“It’s the religious differences that makes the USA a great place,†comments Officer Pudgy Mormon. This PC statement has what to do with the story, Hollyweird? Nada. And just for the record, Hollyweird, it’s tolerance of wacko-diverse Middle Eastern religions that got us attacked by terrorists in the first place. If you are the kind of person who hates Western European Christians; why are you here in the USA? Would you go to China and protest the Buddhists there?

Western European religions are for fools and simpletons. Only the “Native American’s†religion is valid on North America. Only Wicca, Secular Humanism and any non-Christian related religions may be tolerated. I know this, because Hollyweird tells me so.

I guess there aren’t enough Mormons to mount a protest. How big is the Osmond family, anyway? Not that Hollyweird would listen. Mormons are whiteys; therefore not sacred.

“Street†also has a tattoo of a Christian cross on his left forearm. I’m not sure what that has to do with the story either, but Street is a brooding, despondent man who operates on the edge of desperation. According to Hollyweird, no one who believes in Christianity can ever be truly happy.

“Where there’s one white man, there’s more white men,†says one black SWAT-ster to another. This line also had nothing to do with the story, but replace the word “white†with “black†and you’d have howls of racism from the left.

In accordance with Hollyweird’s fetish with girls who kick ???, enter the tuff muff Latina character, “Sanchez,†who spends her time on the screen trying so hard to look rough-n-tough it’s laughable. She’s about 5’2†and looks to weigh in at maybe 110 pounds. When she scowls at the camera, she looks like a 10-year-old boy who didn’t get his way. You’re cute when you’re angry (and miscast for PC reasons) honey.
SWAT is a film that throws so much cheese at us, it’s like being in a food fight in Wisconsin. There are so many dumb-dumb cliché’s in this flick it’s impossible to list them all.

As with all popcorn-munching shoot-‘em-ups, SWAT has it’s share of implausibilities. First off, on the shooting range, “Street†fires off a clip and then turns around, gun in hand, with the gun still smoking. Try that at your local gun range and you’ll see the exit right quick. Then there’s the prison transport bus that gets pulled over by the police. This would never happen. If they needed the bus to stop, they radio dispatch for authority, then dispatch would contact the bus driver in the bus. No way a prison transport driver carrying a full load of cretins, creeps and crooks is stopping for anything without the okay from the top brass. And why “Hondo†came out of retirement is never made quite clear (other than to put a chip on Samuel Jackson’s shoulder).

There are some cool things to see in SWAT. Look for the original SWAT playing on a background television. Look for “Street’s†ultra-retro Chevelle SS. Listen for the old SWAT TV theme song played three different ways. Look for the much-maligned LAPD Rampart Division reference.

SWAT has three of the five Bachelor B’s: Blood, Bashes and Bombs - all three every three seconds or so. No Beasts a no Breasts, which makes you wonder why “Sanchez†is on the SWAT force in the first place.

One of the SWAT-sters says, “Call us the ????-list team …†Could be a copyright problem there; I believe that’s the collective name of the Democratic Presidential candidates.
I give SWAT three Capitalist Dollar Signs (out of 5). $$$





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The reviewer slammed (and misrepresented) the movie to get his own political views across. Just goes to show that yellow journalism flows both ways.
 
buzz_knox

However, very funny I thought.

He always slams the movies he reviews for their political correctness- even the ones (like this one) he likes. :)
 
Yeah, it's funny. But I don't like dishonesty in reviews. For example, he tries to make it seem as if Hollywood went for a European capitalist to be PC. The bad guy was a wanted criminal/murderer/crime family boss. There certainly was no indictment of capitalism. They didn't go after Arab terrorists because that wouldn't have fit into the movie.
 
“American greed … you can always count on it,†sneers Bad Frenchy as every gangsta, goofball and gorilla in La La Land goes ape over his $100 million reward offer. This is the liberal’s view of American capitalism; that people will do anything for money, no matter how disgusting the task may be.

Not to be argumentative, but I don't see where he said (or implied that) the french guy was a capitalist- the point he is making is that Hollywood movies tend to (and I agree) show "capitalism" as evil, and the white Europeans (any white guys) as evil too- while painting socialism (and the poor minority types that are abused by the capitalists) as saintly.

No, there is not a big sign on frenchy or any one else saying "evil capitalist"- but I get it.:scrutiny:
 
Just saw S.W.A.T.

Utter garbage! It is a summer popcorn movie, and most people will forget about it in a year or two. a few entertaining pieces, but not worth the $8 I paid.
 
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