S&W Autos?

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I don't see them discussed much on here, perhaps because of the political unpleasantness. But I'm seeing alot of them popping up in my sale flyers, police trade-ins I guess, alot of them for under $250. The offspring has been wanting a centerfire auto to play with and I thought one of these wouldn't be too bad. Any opinions on these?
 
I bought a police trade-in 5906 for use as a "simulator" firearm for my business' Range 2000 firearms simulator. Since, I've gotten a red Glock for that, and have shot the 5906 perhaps 200 rds. It functions fine, is accurate and reliable. 'Nuff said.

I'd actually rather buy a police trade-in than a NIB one. If a department used it, you know it was working reliably. Unfortunately, that's not always true of NIB Smith's. :(
 
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My 4013 TSW was bought new and has always functioned flawlessly. The only thing I don't like about it is the location of the decocker. It's a fine pistol.

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I have owned three S&W semi-auto's, still have one. The first was a 39-2, but I soon found it to have been very well used and pretty well shot out, so it went bye-bye. The second was a 439 in 98% condition. This one has proven to be something of a real bargain and I plan on keeping this one for a very long time. The third was a 4506 which turned out to be less than accurate and too big for my hands. It was also very heavy and it has gone bye-bye in favor of a Kimber first series Gold Match 1911-A1. The police trade ins often present a real value since many have been carried a lot and shot very little. Occasionally you will find one that was carried by a gun enthusiast and will have a lot of wear and tear, but most just have external wear.
 
I picked up this 639 a few weeks ago, as just a "fun gun".

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I've only had it to the range 3 times, but so far it's been 100% reliable and quite accurate. Pretty nice gun, especially considering the low prices these seem to go for.

Good Luck...

Joe
 
I've been carrying S&W 3rd gen pistols for about 15 years, and I've been a factory certified L/E armorer for about 5 years. I've been impressed enough with them to buy several of my own in recent years, and I've received outstanding service from them. The later production 3rd gen pistols have benefitted from noticeable improvements in production methods.

There's really no way to actually know, however, how well maintained a pistol was while used by any L/E agency ... let alone whether or not it was fiddled with by the individual user to whom it was issued. Sometimes cops can get "creative" when it comes to "just knowing" they can fix something and make it even better. :uhoh:

Also, as pistols reach a point in their service life where they've been subjected to a lot of use and/or abuse ... or simply were in-service for 10+ years, even if only actually shot 1-4 times per year ... it's a good idea for them to be carefully inspected for general wear and worn parts, springs, etc.

Extractors & extractor springs can become worn with age & use. As extractors age sometimes the edges can become "work-hardened" and brittle, and perhaps chipped/broken ... and maybe damaged, if the previous user made a practice of loading the chamber "directly", instead of from the magazine :cuss: ... and extractor springs may become weakened to the point where they allow extractors to slip over case rims during recoil. These are easy things for a gunsmith familiar with S&W pistols, factory trained armorer or a factory terchnician to diagnose and correct, though.

The early 3rd gen ejectors were short and had a sharp angle on the bottom, while the later production ejectors were longer (for faster, earlier ejection) and were rounded on the bottom (mitigating any potential stress risers).

Sear release levers may become worn out of spec when it comes to decocking timing.

Drawbars should be checked for stress risers and cracks. The newer production drawbars in recent years are much better machined (forged & extruded) and have been "rounded" in areas where some cracks used to occur (albeit not that often).

Also, in recent years S&W has taken to recommending that recoil & magazine springs be replaced every 5,000 rounds or 5 years. That doesn't mean that everyone does it, though ...

If in doubt, I'd simply ask the gunstore if their gunsmith did detailed inspections of the pistols when they received them, or whether they were previously inspected by the factory after being turned in by some agency.

S&W pistols can provide outstanding service to owners ... despite the political diatribes often waged against them.

I don't own S&W pistols exclusively, either, so it's not like I work for them or anything. For each and every problem experienced with a S&W pistol, I can relate a problem experienced with just about EVERY other make, model & caliber of pistol in common L/E use, too. You name it ... Colt, SIGARMS, Beretta, HK, Glock ... and I can either recall an instance where either something broke on our range, or else I know another L/E armorer who had things break. That's why we have armorers and factory reps, you see ... ;)
 
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At the risk of sounding heretical, my 645 is my favorite large-bore pistol. It is large in size, that is true, but it is also accurate, the trigger is smooth, it feeds, fires, extracts and ejects everything I load into it and the mass of the gun really helps with recoil (which is why I like it better than my Ruger P97DC).

Bob
 
I bought a NIB 5946 (DAO) some years back, when no one was yet trading them in. The current trade-in prices pain me!

Its probably my favorite pistol ever. Could not like it more. Completely reliable, even when horribly dirty, because I am lazy in my old age. I stripped out the mag safety and drop safety, traded the springs for Wolff somewhat underpower ones and it has a Mepro night front. The stocks are Hogue wood, sanded to about 1/2 thickness and refinished with Defthane.

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I'm a huge fan of S & W autos. The 5906 is an excellent piece; the 4506 and the 1006 are also great pistols. Yes, they're heavy, but in my experience, they're well made, accurate and very reliable. The only thing I dislike about 'em is the safety system (I'm a 1911 guy), so I don't use the safeties much.
 
I picked up a S&W 5946 a couple of months ago. Have had no problems with it. Not crazy about the mag release safety, but other than that, like the gun over all. Not a bad price.

Shooebe, where did you get those grips? Did you make them yourself, or special order? Thanks.
 
I've had my 6906 for 12+ years and I have no idea how many rounds I've put through it and couldn't say a single bad word about it. I did recently send it in for a new extractor and the turnaround was so fast, I practically got it back before I sent it in... :) What models are you looking at? For under $250, I would say you have a high probability of getting a real deal.
 
some of the most underated defensive hardware out there.....

Smith's 3rd gen auto pistols, don't have the star power of glock and sig etc.
but are outstanding. I had a 910, which I traded off in a moment extreme
stupidity. I bought it in 1997 had it until this year. During that time, just about
5000k rounds went down the pipe. I has NEVER JAMMED ON ANYTHING. You
name it hollow points, swc, fwc, flying ashtrays, even my buddys swc reloads
that turned his glock into a single shooter. As an acid test I've loaded empty
cases into loaded mags, the 910 would always chamber them. Seriously,
the value line, or the used market are they best place to pickup smiths, for
the best prices. I wish I had mine back. :banghead:
 
The cheapest that I'm looking at are the 900's, but I also have seen several 5900's for under $275. Seems like a pretty good deal, especially when he was looking at KelTecs for $249. Not that there's anything wrong with KT's, I've liked the 3 I've owned, but the S&W would be easier to shoot.
 
"also runs" ... hmmm...

Don't kaboom (Glock).
Don't Rust (Sig, XD).
Don't crack locking blocks (Beretta).
 
I bought a 4513tsw last spring and except for a couple problems feeding in the first 100 rounds it has never had any problem since and is now my main carry piece. It was brand new when I bought it but then I called S&W and asked about any recalls and date of manufacture. No recalls and serial no. showed it to have been made in 1998, no wonder I got a good deal. Yes, this is my only S&W but I love it. Jim.
 
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