S&W put locks on semis

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My dealer got a 4006 TSW that has a lock on the trigger guard. It is right under the trigger and to engage pull the trigger back about a 1/4 inch and use the key to turn the lock so it protrudes infront of the trigger so the trigger cannot reset.

This lock SUCKSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!! The lock sticks out on the bottom of the trigger guard so when you shoot the index finger on your support hand gets beat up by the lock. REAL GOOD DESIGN!!!!!!!!! DUMBASSES at S&W. :banghead: :cuss: :fire: :eek: :uhoh: :banghead:
 
That does bite....literally!!!! But in order to sell guns in the socialist/communist states of the union, manufacturers are going to have to do more of this mess.
 
Wait...maybe I'm picturing this wrong...but does this mean that if the gun is loaded and you try to lock it, you have to pull the trigger slightly back?

Then, WHILE LOCKED, the trigger could be pulled the rest of the way, firing the gun, but now the trigger can reset? I can't imagine S&W would design it that way...

Seems it would make more sense for this lock to protrude behind the trigger, blocking it from being pulled at all.

As I said, perhaps I'm misreading your description...
 
Fjc

You are imagining the lock correctly the trigger has to be pulled back about a 1/4". I presume you are supposed to lock unloaded guns only.
 
It's amazing the way this sort of stuff spreads and incites folks to get really upset ... and sometimes for no good reason.

I recently was handling and shooting some fresh-from-the-factory TSW pistols which didn't have this feature, so I was curious about this subject when it was brought up in another forum. Was it a used gun? Something that someone had had installed either as an option, or after purchasing the gun?

So, I called S&W this morning and asked about this subject. I figured they might have some insight into it, you know?

I was told that back around '01 or '02, when the new owners took over (Remember SAF-T-HAMMER?), that a small number of guns receved this SAF-T-TRIGGER option. I've since found some online references to some used TSW guns, and a Sigma, which had been fitted with this option.

Anyway, it seems the SAF-T-TRIGGER safety option never really caught on as a factory-installed option, and it's not currently offered as a factory option in new pistols. There are undoubtedly some used pistols out there that have this option from that time, or else had it installed by someone else, since there are many listings for companies that not only sold the device, but installed it, as well. It's even listed as an approved safety device for at least a couple of states that I saw mentioned.

And ... when I asked about the proper functioning and use of this locking device, I was told that it was designed to prevent the trigger from moving rearward. When the lock was properly engaged, the device was raised upward through the trigger guard behind the trigger, and it prevented the trigger from being moved to the rear. Here's a link to an article where the device was installed on a Glock.
http://www.countryhunting.com/story.cfm?story_id=58

The sky is not falling ... and there's no new conspiracy against gun owners, especially by S&W ...

However, considering the current interest in such devices by many politicians and advocacy groups of one sort or another, as well as some of the states ... it's probably not a stretch to think that safety/locking devices of some sort or another are in our future somewhere not too far down the road.

Look at the different safety & locking mechanisms already being offered by some of the major firearms manufacturers, folks. If I had to make a gentleman's wager on it, I'd hazard a guess that these sorts of devices are going to be increasing, not decreasing.

In the meantime, if you don't want to buy a S&W pistol equipped with this device, then you probably don't want to buy one of the small number of earlier ones equipped with it ...
 
What's so surprising? Smith & Wesson already tried to help the Snopes Clinton-Liar Gore régime put a lock on our Second Amendment civil rights, didn't it?

Surprising about what? Didn't you read the above post? No locks are being put on the S&W autos.

Not yet, anyway.
 
The locks are on all the S&W revolvers so don't think the semi-autos won't be to far behind in following suit.
 
You know, in one way it's going to be ironic, and more than a little poetic, if S&W is one of the last of the manufacturers to install locking devices on their pistols. I'll expect to hear cries of anguish and the gnashing of teeth from those folks that continue to carry some sort of a grudge against S&W, when their favorite manufacturer starts offering only pistols with locking devices incorporated.

A couple of the other big names that have "optional" internal locks for some of their pistols can easily decide to make them standard overnight.

Don't think that the "safety trends" in our society, and the winds which affect the political climate, aren't going to put increasing attention and pressure on these things.

We're pretty much of a captive market, in many respects.
 
And to think I was just beginning to think that maybe just maybe S$W had finally pull their head out and were seeing the light.

This could be reason enough for me to buy a Gl...a Gl... a Glo..
oh hell I can't even say it.


A Glock there I said it!
 
So, Missouri Mule ...

You' re going to buy a Glock, which does offer integral locks on some of their newer models ... because S&W quit offering integral locks on their pistols 2+ years ago, and only after doing it briefly on a small number of pistols, because it was a related product from another company related to the new ownership???? :scrutiny:

Okay ...

Of course, it's not like owning a Glock is a "bad" thing. I even own a couple of them myself, and may own another one in the next couple of years if the subcompact .45GAP works out to be a decent, reliable & functional platform for the caliber.
 
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