Loosedhorse
member
With all S&W revolvers, if you do an incomplete trigger reset you can obtain a condition where the revolver "locks up": the cylinder stop retracts incompletely, but the hand re-engages the cylinder ratchet on re-pull of the trigger. The cylinder can't rotate, and the trigger can't move.
Most of the time, you have to really work to have this happen: release the trigger just enough, and then pull.
Last week at the range, for the first time I had a just-acquired revolver do this repeatedly. Works fine with rapid trigger pulls unloaded, but when loaded and following a fired round, the cylinder would lock up about 1 out of four times.
Diagnostically, I then loaded an empty chamber ahead of two loaded ones. Frequently what I'd get was click-bang-lock (empty chamber, loaded chamber, cylinder locks and won't rotate past the just-fired chamber). Again, no real problem in dry-fire, and no lock with after the first trigger pull on an empty chamber: the recoil of a just-fired round seems to bring it out.
If it matters, the gun has another problem: light DA primer strikes with occasional misfires. Nice, solid strike in SA. DA strikes are always lighter with rare misfires in first trigger-pull, but strikes immediately after a fired round (in rapid DA, when the cylinder doesn't lock) are lighter still...and occasionally absent.
I would say that out of 50 rounds fired in attempted rapid-fire DA mode, I was able to get the gun to go "bang-bang" on two consecutive rounds exactly twice. In all other instances, the second round misfired, or didn't rotate into position.
With all Smith revolver triggers, there are three "clicks" to the trigger reset: if ypou pull immediately after the first, lock-up; if you pull after the second, cylinder rotates but hammer doesn't rise and fall; after the third, all is good. On an old 27-2, the clicks occur in rapid succession with very little trigger travel in between; on this new revolver, there's a significant distance between the first and second click.
So, questions: I'm not new to revolver shooting, but it seems I'm suddenly and with this gun specifically having trouble resetting the trigger properly after the gun fires (dry-firing is fine)--is that something that indicates a mechanical problem with the gun? Is the longer distance between the first and second reset clicks something that can be fixed?
Or is Smith just going to slap an "inspected" label on the gun and ship it back to me?
Moderators: feel free to move this thread if needed.
Most of the time, you have to really work to have this happen: release the trigger just enough, and then pull.
Last week at the range, for the first time I had a just-acquired revolver do this repeatedly. Works fine with rapid trigger pulls unloaded, but when loaded and following a fired round, the cylinder would lock up about 1 out of four times.
Diagnostically, I then loaded an empty chamber ahead of two loaded ones. Frequently what I'd get was click-bang-lock (empty chamber, loaded chamber, cylinder locks and won't rotate past the just-fired chamber). Again, no real problem in dry-fire, and no lock with after the first trigger pull on an empty chamber: the recoil of a just-fired round seems to bring it out.
If it matters, the gun has another problem: light DA primer strikes with occasional misfires. Nice, solid strike in SA. DA strikes are always lighter with rare misfires in first trigger-pull, but strikes immediately after a fired round (in rapid DA, when the cylinder doesn't lock) are lighter still...and occasionally absent.
I would say that out of 50 rounds fired in attempted rapid-fire DA mode, I was able to get the gun to go "bang-bang" on two consecutive rounds exactly twice. In all other instances, the second round misfired, or didn't rotate into position.
With all Smith revolver triggers, there are three "clicks" to the trigger reset: if ypou pull immediately after the first, lock-up; if you pull after the second, cylinder rotates but hammer doesn't rise and fall; after the third, all is good. On an old 27-2, the clicks occur in rapid succession with very little trigger travel in between; on this new revolver, there's a significant distance between the first and second click.
So, questions: I'm not new to revolver shooting, but it seems I'm suddenly and with this gun specifically having trouble resetting the trigger properly after the gun fires (dry-firing is fine)--is that something that indicates a mechanical problem with the gun? Is the longer distance between the first and second reset clicks something that can be fixed?
Or is Smith just going to slap an "inspected" label on the gun and ship it back to me?
Moderators: feel free to move this thread if needed.