S&W safety locks
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Most people hate them. My opinion is there is nothing we as consumers can do about it and I live with the lock. S&W is still a great revolver regardless of the lock. I've owned 3 with locks and have no problems to report or regrets about them.
buck460XVR
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.............is this a joke?
dashootist
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My S&W came with a pad lock as well as the infamous safety lock. The padlock seems to be a good way to disable a gun. Not sure why safety lock has to be there.
Guillermo
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This is obviously a joke.
But I will play
The IL is a pathetic attempt at engineering as it works on the same axis as the recoil of the gun. Some folks do not know any better. Others are just paper hunters. Many disable the locks.
Some folks think that the only reason that Smith & Clinton exists is to keep the prices down on the good guns that they used to make by selling Rossi-quality stuff at stupid-high prices.
There was a 35 + page thread running on the Smith and Wesson forum chronicling failures on the locks from people who had actually experienced them, but the new owner is kind of weird and deleted it.
Personally, I'd never buy one as a primary self defense weapon, but would have one for target or plinking.
Besides that, they're just plain ugly and stupid looking. A testament to the guy that designed it. A brit I think.
Personally, I'd never buy one as a primary self defense weapon, but would have one for target or plinking.
Besides that, they're just plain ugly and stupid looking. A testament to the guy that designed it. A brit I think.
I don't use the lock so I would prefer it wasn't there. If it is ever going to wiggle into the on position, it would most likely happen in practice. Probability of it happening just when I need take that one life saving shot is remote I think. I am hoping that by never touching it, this will decrease the probability of it malfunctioning.
Geezer Glide
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My opinion is that we as consumers can do something about the lock, do not buy them and let S&W know why we chose another brand. The bottom line is all that matters to them.
Old Shooter
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I just don't care for the appearance, have no clue as to their reliability.
There are enough good used Smith & Wessons without that "feature" out there to keep me happy for the rest of my days.
There are enough good used Smith & Wessons without that "feature" out there to keep me happy for the rest of my days.
johnnylaw53
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Was very happy to see this tread been a while since it have come up. I always like to get some pop corn and sit back and read these things I hope I"m not disappointed this time.
be safe
be safe
loadedround
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Yes, the S&W locks can be removed, but you still have the hole on the left side. So why bother? All it's doing is driving the prices of the older Smiths up in my opinion. 
Well said Geezer Glide!!
If more people didn't roll over and accept this crap that S&W shoves down our collective throats, the idiotic locks would be gone by now.
I haven't purchased a new S&W product since 2001, and have no intention of doing so. The REAL S&W went out of business in 2001. RIP S&W. TJ
If more people didn't roll over and accept this crap that S&W shoves down our collective throats, the idiotic locks would be gone by now.
I haven't purchased a new S&W product since 2001, and have no intention of doing so. The REAL S&W went out of business in 2001. RIP S&W. TJ
With considerable experience over a very long time period, the Old Fuff believes the S&W internal lock should be a non-issue.
Those that actually like the lock (seem to be very few of them) or don't care about it (lots of them) can buy new or recent S&W products.
Those that, for whatever reason, detest them can buy older, and in some ways better, S&W revolvers that never had a lock, and sometimes for attractive prices.
Conidering all of this, everybody should be happy.
Those that actually like the lock (seem to be very few of them) or don't care about it (lots of them) can buy new or recent S&W products.
Those that, for whatever reason, detest them can buy older, and in some ways better, S&W revolvers that never had a lock, and sometimes for attractive prices.
Conidering all of this, everybody should be happy.
DilboFlaggins
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I know that Taurus revolvers have a turnkey safety as well. Do they have a similar problem as the S&W's.
BTW y'all just successfully talked me out of a new S&W, i always thought that they where overpriced anyhow.
BTW y'all just successfully talked me out of a new S&W, i always thought that they where overpriced anyhow.
dashootist
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The plug sounds like a good idea. Where can I find one for my 686?
Do Rugers SP101 have internal locks? That was going to be my next purchase.
Do Rugers SP101 have internal locks? That was going to be my next purchase.
Here is an entire thread about the "Plug" and how to obtain it and install it.
Maker is Bullseye Smith.
Good guy to deal with.
http://smith-wessonforum.com/accessories-misc-sale-trade/112992-replace-lock-plug.html
Maker is Bullseye Smith.
Good guy to deal with.
http://smith-wessonforum.com/accessories-misc-sale-trade/112992-replace-lock-plug.html
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At one point (four years ago or so), I had about six ILS S&Ws. An aquaintance has his "auto-lock" while dry-firing. I sold all of mine, one at a time, while replacing them with equivalent or better S&W revolvers.
About a year ago I bought an M25-13 that had the internal parts of the Lock removed by the previous owner. I am okay with that, but I do not have my eye on any other ILS reveolvers.
About a year ago I bought an M25-13 that had the internal parts of the Lock removed by the previous owner. I am okay with that, but I do not have my eye on any other ILS reveolvers.
dashootist
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That link doesn't work. It's asking for password.
Guillermo
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nope...because they were smart enough to have their storage lock to work perpendicular to the recoil of the gun.
The Smith design is the most idiotic thing that I have ever seen since the nuclear rifle that didn't shoot beyond the fallout radius. It is truly moronic beyond words.
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