SAA clones with hammer firing pin
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I just bought an EMF Great Western II manufactured by Pietta. Mine's in .357, but obviously .45 colt is available.
4 satisfying clicks, tight lock up, firing pin on the hammer.
Very nice 1873 clone for well under 400 bucks. I believe mine was around 350ish.
4 satisfying clicks, tight lock up, firing pin on the hammer.
Very nice 1873 clone for well under 400 bucks. I believe mine was around 350ish.
jaguarxk120
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Uberti has two model types the Cattleman and the Cattleman II.
The Cattleman II has a floating firing pin and does not have the four clicks. The Cattleman has the four clicks and two safety's.
A hammer block that is built into the hammer and a "Swiss" safety that allows the base pin to move backward blocking the hammer fall.
Both models can be had in any configuration you want, barrel length, finish, or engraving.
The Cattleman II has a floating firing pin and does not have the four clicks. The Cattleman has the four clicks and two safety's.
A hammer block that is built into the hammer and a "Swiss" safety that allows the base pin to move backward blocking the hammer fall.
Both models can be had in any configuration you want, barrel length, finish, or engraving.
Crunchy Frog
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I’ve been reading about the Uberti Cattleman 2 with the retracting hammer mounted firing pins. One source said Uberti is transitioning all of its US sales to this design. Some people hate them but some people are resistant to change of any type, so I take some of the complaints with a grain of salt. It does seem like a good way to retain the traditional look and feel while making the guns drop-safe with six rounds.
All that said, if I wanted a Colt style revolver I would get a Great Western 2 from EMF.
All that said, if I wanted a Colt style revolver I would get a Great Western 2 from EMF.
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my guess is maybe the OP is looking for a more authentic SA without the retracting pin or transfer bars and whatnot that keep the design simpler. It took me awhile to give in to the notion that a more true-to-form colt clone is just going to be a no-go loading up six unless I am considering a shootout in a saloon. I stopped looking at the guns as true six shooters and thought about them more as 5+1 shooters. Kinda like carrying condition three with a semi auto.
Anyway, as much as I appreciate the safety of the upgraded models, I prefer the sound and feel of the old school colt action.
Anyway, as much as I appreciate the safety of the upgraded models, I prefer the sound and feel of the old school colt action.
Sistema1927
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Not quite.
Taurus Gaucho has frame mounted firing pin.
icanthitabarn
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My old Cattleman has no hammer block at all.
Crunchy Frog
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Also Uberti made a Horseman with a transfer bar ignition, although I never saw one in the flesh.
Pietta has made its revolver with a transfer bar; a neighbor bought a pair at Cabelas. Traditions sells that revolver and I'm pretty sure the Heritage Big Bore is a US assembled version.
BobWright
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Just for whatever its worth, here are two Uberti made Single Actions:
The gun on the left is an early Uberti with the hammer mounted safety block, the one on the right has the "Swiss Safe" type of base pin safety. Early Uberti Cattleman and Flat Tops had this type of safety, which was a very good method. Simply setting the hammer at the safety notch activated the safety. The "Swiss Safe" is really no safety at all, as it tends to get ignored.
Bob Wright
The gun on the left is an early Uberti with the hammer mounted safety block, the one on the right has the "Swiss Safe" type of base pin safety. Early Uberti Cattleman and Flat Tops had this type of safety, which was a very good method. Simply setting the hammer at the safety notch activated the safety. The "Swiss Safe" is really no safety at all, as it tends to get ignored.
Bob Wright
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I was thoroughly abused on a cowboy board for suggesting reliance on that safety notch. Wannabe SOs insisted that hammer on an empty chamber was commanded by God. My only use for such guns is in SASS, and we must load only five in any case. I can't open carry where I live, and concealed carry of a single action is an endless debate, so it seems moot to me which hammer design is used.
Jim Watson
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I recall a video of an Italian copy with a retracting firing pin on the hammer. It looked normal but did not protrude far enough to fire except with the trigger pulled.
I believe that is the new Uberti firing pin. I'm on the fence about it. Purists don't like it because it adds another component that can malfunction and it doesn't have 4 clicks. On the other hand, they still have a CYA statement in the manual, I have heard, that still suggests only loading 5 in the gun.
I think the worry is that all Ubertis are going to potentially be fitted with the new firing pin at some point.
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