So I went to look for a DPMS and learned that you guys were all correct. They are not available. I found a Sabre Defense flat top for 895$ in the 5,56. Does anyone have one of these or have any experience with them? Are they nice? reliable?
rob_s said:That's a damn good price for a Sabre. What's wrong with it?
For that price run with it.
DPMS are great quality, anyone who actually owns one or has ever shot one will tell you that. Dont listen to the misinformed who say anything other than colt or LMT is wrong, or second best in quality.
As far as DPMS and "milspec M-4 durability features" go, you can get more of those features available for a few extra bucks than most other brands offer in their rifles and be comfortable knowing you have a very accurate high quality rifle.
Its stands to reason that since multiple companies use each others rifles to sell under their each others names, and multiple companies use recievers, barrels, springs, pins, etc etc that are all produced by each other for use by all, that there is very very little difference from one major manufacturer to the next in any quality.
Keep in mind that the 2 largest manufacturers of AR rifles in the world are Bushmaster and DPMS. Stands to reason that since both are owned by the same company, that both supply other companies with parts.
I dont doubt that colt are tough rifles, I dont doubt that LMT rifles are tough and well built. In reality little to nothing separates each companies rifles in durability, in reality all rifles made as the same model from each of the major companies have very very minute actual differences. Keep in mind that just because a company claims that it MP and HP tests all barrels and bolts, is it actually done on all? Also just because a company doesnt brag about MP and HP testing these parts, is it not done on all?
Maybe they dont have to because it was done by the company that made the part already.
Well there are differences, whether you want to acknowledge it or not.DPMS are great quality, anyone who actually owns one or has ever shot one will tell you that. Dont listen to the misinformed who say anything other than colt or LMT is wrong, or second best in quality.
Its stands to reason that since multiple companies use each others rifles to sell under their each others names, and multiple companies use recievers, barrels, springs, pins, etc etc that are all produced by each other for use by all, that there is very very little difference from one major manufacturer to the next in any quality.
Keep in mind that the 2 largest manufacturers of AR rifles in the world are Bushmaster and DPMS. Stands to reason that since both are owned by the same company, that both supply other companies with parts.I dont doubt that colt are tough rifles, I dont doubt that LMT rifles are tough and well built. In reality little to nothing separates each companies rifles in durability, in reality all rifles made as the same model from each of the major companies have very very minute actual differences.Keep in mind that just because a company claims that it MP and HP tests all barrels and bolts, is it actually done on all? Also just because a company doesnt brag about MP and HP testing these parts, is it not done on all?
Maybe they dont have to because it was done by the company that made the part already.
Can you clarify this statement, and perhaps define "fine rifles"?they are both fine rifles.