SAF & ANJRPC Sue NJ over Carry Laws

[galapoola]

SECOND AMENDMENT FOUNDATION and ASSOCIATION OF NEW JERSEY RIFLE & PISTOL CLUBS COMPLAINT FOR DEPRIVATION OF CIVIL RIGHTS UNDER COLOR OF LAW.
Copied and pasted that from the complaint. They have 6 citizens with very compelling stories, all were denied a permit to carry for not having justifiable need. The complaint is an easy read. We should have Hell freezing over within two years and a carry law that is constitutional. It may be fast tracked since SCOTUS already decided McDonald and Heller. Not sure what happened to Alan Gura here, he was named a few months ago as the lead attorney.

 

[Tony50ae]

Well if this comes to pass, this will affect every state that still has may issue permits, like my state of Hawaii. But what about states that have no issue? Or for that matter states that have may issue, may just go to no issue to get around any court ruling.

 

[belercous]

We kinda still need for SCOTUS to give meaning to the "bear" part of the 2A. In my state (not of perpetual confusion, but Illinois. Oh, sorry, same thing) we don't yet have such right. This case challenges N.J. law on federal constitutional grounds in re; the right to "bear" arms. So far, such right does not exist. I wish it did. However, I'm not too optomistic about this case's outcome.

This case, if it even makes it before SCOTUS, which is doubtful, will be determined by one Justice, not popular opinion. As most cases of late, Justice Kennedy will be the deciding vote. And he is a swing voter. It takes 4 Justices to grant cert. for a case to come before the Court. I count 3 votes for sure. If 4 vote to hear the case it will be Justice Kennedy who decides it. And that is a crap-shoot. Judging from Kennedy's history, I'd bet against us winning. I seriously hope I'm wrong, and I don't gamble, but if I had to put money on it, C.C. will lose.

It still is too early, we need to get some metropolitan areas on our side before SCOTUS makes a ruling. Sometimes SCOTUS gets ahead of public sentiment, but not too far ahead, we need public opinion overwhelmingly on our side.

Remember, Heller changed our Constitutional understanding of over 220 years overnight. It needs some time to settle in before C.C. can be nationalized in the public mind. Then C.C. will not be seen as pushing too much, too fast. Recall the time between the Brown decision and it's actual implementation.

Again, I hope I'm mistaken. I am licensed to carry in 24 states of the union, but not my home state. I have a vested interest in this case winning, but my wishes don't cloud my view of reality.