Abel
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Yeah, the 20" barrel on the Sako is a turnoff. If I wanted a carbine, I'd tote a lever rifle.
Sako Finnlight vs Winchester Extreme Weather
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Float Pilot
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The Sako model 85 Finnlight comes in three barrel lengths:
S / 515 mm (20.27")
SM, L / 620 mm (24.40")
M / 570 mm (22.44")
With a 22 inch barrel the 6.5x55mm does just fine without the need to push pressures.
I have a model 70 featherweight in 6.5x55mm that has a 22 inch barrel. Here are some of my load experiments.
Winchester Model 70 Featherweight in 6.5x55 Swede Mauser.*This rifle has been glass bedded.
At 100 yards, light snow, 32F. 6-8 knot wind.
Federal factory 140gr Soft Point: = 2,375 fps, 0.50 inch group.
120gr Nosler Ballistic Tip: 46.5gr RL-19, Lapua, CCI BR-2, 3.085 col= 2,560 fps and a 1.0 inch group120gr Sierra Match King: 46.0 gr RL-19, Lapua, BR-2, 3.085 col= 2,508 fps and a 0.50 inch group.
140gr Rem Accu-Tip, 47.0gr RL-22, Lapua Brass, CCI-200, 3.970 col= 2,640 fps and a 1.0 inch group
140gr Nosler Partition, 47.0gr RL-22, Lapua Brass, CCI-200, 3.950 col= 2,569 fps and a 1.5 inch group
140gr Hornady Soft
oint , 47.0gr RL-22, Lapua Brass, CCI-200, 3.850 col= 2,575 fps and a 2.0 inch group
140gr Hornady SST, 46.5gr IMR-4831, ww,ww, 2.995 col
=2,700 fps and a 0.75 inch group, primer flow
140gr Sierra Game King, 44.5gr H-100V, WW, WW, 2.930col
= 2,675 fps and a 0.55 inch group Lee factory Crimp, no pressure signs
140gr Hornady SST. 46.5 gr RL-19, Lapua, CCI-200, 3.090 COL
= 2,570 fps and a 1.0 inch group
160gr Hornady Round Nose: 45.0 gr RL-22, PMC, Rem 9.5, 3.100 col= 2,288 fps and a 1.5 inch group
S / 515 mm (20.27")
SM, L / 620 mm (24.40")
M / 570 mm (22.44")
With a 22 inch barrel the 6.5x55mm does just fine without the need to push pressures.
I have a model 70 featherweight in 6.5x55mm that has a 22 inch barrel. Here are some of my load experiments.
Winchester Model 70 Featherweight in 6.5x55 Swede Mauser.*This rifle has been glass bedded.
At 100 yards, light snow, 32F. 6-8 knot wind.
Federal factory 140gr Soft Point: = 2,375 fps, 0.50 inch group.
120gr Nosler Ballistic Tip: 46.5gr RL-19, Lapua, CCI BR-2, 3.085 col= 2,560 fps and a 1.0 inch group120gr Sierra Match King: 46.0 gr RL-19, Lapua, BR-2, 3.085 col= 2,508 fps and a 0.50 inch group.
140gr Rem Accu-Tip, 47.0gr RL-22, Lapua Brass, CCI-200, 3.970 col= 2,640 fps and a 1.0 inch group
140gr Nosler Partition, 47.0gr RL-22, Lapua Brass, CCI-200, 3.950 col= 2,569 fps and a 1.5 inch group
140gr Hornady Soft
oint , 47.0gr RL-22, Lapua Brass, CCI-200, 3.850 col= 2,575 fps and a 2.0 inch group140gr Hornady SST, 46.5gr IMR-4831, ww,ww, 2.995 col
=2,700 fps and a 0.75 inch group, primer flow
140gr Sierra Game King, 44.5gr H-100V, WW, WW, 2.930col
= 2,675 fps and a 0.55 inch group Lee factory Crimp, no pressure signs
140gr Hornady SST. 46.5 gr RL-19, Lapua, CCI-200, 3.090 COL
= 2,570 fps and a 1.0 inch group
160gr Hornady Round Nose: 45.0 gr RL-22, PMC, Rem 9.5, 3.100 col= 2,288 fps and a 1.5 inch group
NickEllis
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Can you even get the Extreme Weather? Been awfully hard to find recently, with the Winchester assembly moving to Portugal. I've been looking for one in .308 for months now with no joy.
CypressSniper
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No doubt, I have also been looking for a Win EW 7mm Rem Mag for over a year and they are virtually impossible to find. I have basically given up.
Let me know if anyone has any bright ideas as far as locating one.
Let me know if anyone has any bright ideas as far as locating one.
headoftheholler
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My 16" barrel swede sporter with 159 grain Normas must be doing something wrong, tiny groups you can cover with a quarter at 150 yards and dead deer everytime it goes hunting.
Sako85 in 6,5x55 here. Looked at a lot of options before I chose it and it came down to a choice between Sako and Tikka.
The Tikka price was about 65% that of the Sako, but it's probably 80% as good. This makes Tikkas excellent value in comparison. But value isn't everything I'm looking for in a rifle, especially as it's something I will probably never part with...
So I chose the best quality rifle out of the two, the rifle that felt "more" when shouldered, the rifle with solid metal magazines, metal trigger guard, 3 bolt lugs, etc.
But one negative to the Sako is if you need to extend the LOP - the butt plate is a complete pain to remove....
Good luck!
The Tikka price was about 65% that of the Sako, but it's probably 80% as good. This makes Tikkas excellent value in comparison. But value isn't everything I'm looking for in a rifle, especially as it's something I will probably never part with...
So I chose the best quality rifle out of the two, the rifle that felt "more" when shouldered, the rifle with solid metal magazines, metal trigger guard, 3 bolt lugs, etc.
But one negative to the Sako is if you need to extend the LOP - the butt plate is a complete pain to remove....
Good luck!
Float Pilot
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Just put on a thicker coat.
firedawg60
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So is the butt plate on the EW (glued on)....
I've owned more sakos than rem and win and yes, the sakos are well made but a bit overrated too. I think they are a little bit pricy. But I like the simplicity of the americans and the aftermarket. I also doesnt like the integral bases on sako. The bases are conical and the finish rifleingeneers must been drunk in the sauna when they come up with that idea.
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red rick
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My local GS has the EW in 308 & 270 . I didn't really like the feel of the Bell & Carson stock . The grip area was thicker than I like . It didn't feel hollow though and I liked that and the texture .
I like the feel of the Tika, but the stock felt cheap like most synthetic stocks .
I also like the feel of the Browning xbolt , but I am not sure how well that rubber stock would hold up .
I like the feel of the Tika, but the stock felt cheap like most synthetic stocks .
I also like the feel of the Browning xbolt , but I am not sure how well that rubber stock would hold up .
Float Pilot
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I had one of the light weight Bell and Carlson stock crack and split by the bolt handle notch. There was a bubble inside that caused it to be weak.
Annoying that isn't it. A slip on par works but isn't perfect. Still, that (and the price) are my only grips about the Sako, and I forget both when I'm shooting it
NickEllis
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If you don't pick up the .308, mind telling me the name of your LGS, RedRick?
I have had both. The Winchester EW in 270 WSM and the finnlight in .243.
The Sako had the better action/barrel. Was not impressed with the cheap injection molded stock however, especially on something with a prestige such as Sako.
One note on the Sako was it had a long throat and seating bullets as far as the mag allowed didn't even come close to the lands. Still exceptional accuracy however.
The winchester wasn't quite as smooth as the Sako, but the stock was heads and tails better than the Sako. I'm a fan of the CRF, so that was a plus as well.
Accuracy between both was a toss-up, both exceptional. Performing with handloads at a consistent half Moa out to 300 yards.
I've sold both, and I regret selling the Winchester.
I'm planning on buying within the next year 2 extreme weathers and 1 Sako greywolf. I would not recommend the finnlight, the hunter syn/ss is a better choice IMO if you want a synthetic Sako.
The Sako had the better action/barrel. Was not impressed with the cheap injection molded stock however, especially on something with a prestige such as Sako.
One note on the Sako was it had a long throat and seating bullets as far as the mag allowed didn't even come close to the lands. Still exceptional accuracy however.
The winchester wasn't quite as smooth as the Sako, but the stock was heads and tails better than the Sako. I'm a fan of the CRF, so that was a plus as well.
Accuracy between both was a toss-up, both exceptional. Performing with handloads at a consistent half Moa out to 300 yards.
I've sold both, and I regret selling the Winchester.
I'm planning on buying within the next year 2 extreme weathers and 1 Sako greywolf. I would not recommend the finnlight, the hunter syn/ss is a better choice IMO if you want a synthetic Sako.
Personally, I'd take the M70 EW and spend the savings on better glass. These new M70's are great rifles. I have no experience shooting Sako rifles though, only handling them though. they are nice rifles for sure. If I'd won that mega millions jackpot I''m sure I'd buy a few Sako rifles though...
atomchaser
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The newer 85's have a ST (soft touch) stock that is nicer than the previous offering.
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