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i wanted to point out a different angle than the other san fran topics. mods feel free to merge this in if you want.

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Supervisor Chris Daly, who proposed the measure, said the victory showed that "San Francisco voters support sensible gun control."
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I'd like to point out that the NRA-ILA would really be letting us down if they didn't wear this quote out on the rest of the country.

specifically, it's nothing short of an admission that when anti-gunners use the phrase "sensible gun control" they have ALWAYS meant a complete, total ban, requiring current owners to turn them in.

And by extension, every time the NRA has opposed the "sensible gun control" laws and proposals, they have really be opposing the complete and total ban.

This seems like a pretty good opportunity to take this damaging phrase away from them.
 
specifically, it's nothing short of an admission that when anti-gunners use the phrase "sensible gun control" they have ALWAYS meant a complete, total ban, requiring current owners to turn them in.
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I'll bump this to the top in the hope that someone will bring that quote to the attention of the N.R.A. and G.O.A. They could—and should—make the most of it.
 
taliv said:
specifically, it's nothing short of an admission that when anti-gunners use the phrase "sensible gun control" they have ALWAYS meant a complete, total ban, requiring current owners to turn them in.

And by extension, every time the NRA has opposed the "sensible gun control" laws and proposals, they have really be opposing the complete and total ban.

This seems like a pretty good opportunity to take this damaging phrase away from them.
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Good point!!!

"Support 'sensible gun control' - Ban all guns now!"
 
I sent them an email. PLEASE DO THE SAME SO THAT WE BRING THIS TO THEIR ATTENTION!!!!

Contact them here: https://secure.nraila.org/Contact.aspx

My email to the NRA-ILA:

To Whom It May Concern:

The recently passed San Francisco gun ban provides us with a great opportunity to expose some of the language that the anti-gun crowd has been using to lie to the public about their true intentions.

In this article: http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/merc...s/california/northern_california/13117588.htm

SF Supervisor Chris Daly, who proposed the gun ban measure, is quoted as saying, "the victory showed that San Francisco voters support sensible gun control."

We MUST seize on this opportunity to show that the left is blatantly LYING when they say they only want "sensible" gun control.


We MUST seize this opportunity to show the public that when the left says "sensible gun control," they really mean "BAN ALL GUNS."

Please act on this opportunity and spread the word to fellow NRA members.

Thank you,
Beethoven
 
san francisco has something far worse than a hurricane coming, I'm afraid. When they get the next big earthquake, loss of life and destruction will make the hurricanes insignificant by comparison. They will be clamoring for guns to protect themselves from the animals that always take control when the law enforcement is too stretched to control them.
I feel sorry for the good citizens that have to live under control of such scum as has taken control of san francisco.
 
4570Rick said:
Maybe it's just me, but I'm a little tired of NRA/ILA ignoring the gun owners of CA and holding us up to the rest of the country saying "Don't let this happen to you."
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Well, the core problem there is the citizens of California. They're the ones who vote to support these monstrosities. I don't think that's the NRA's fault. At best, a political advocacy organization can help to tip the scales when an issue is close, organize support when the votes are with us, or try to limit the damage when the votes are against us. They can't go in there and totally reverse the will of the voters of California. The core problem is that you've just got too many fantasy-world nanny-state blissninnies in CA. For the rest of us elsewhere, the problem is that the Hollywood machine is working overtime to spread that blissninny mental disease eastwards.
 
4570Rick said:
Maybe it's just me, but I'm a little tired of NRA/ILA ignoring the gun owners of CA and holding us up to the rest of the country saying "Don't let this happen to you.":banghead:
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We can't exactly look to CA as a utopia of how things are supposed to be, now can we?

While there are a number of good, sensible gun owners out there (nobody disputes that), you ARE heavily outnumbered, and you haven't been scoring a whole lot of wins lately. But hey, look at it this way: for every loss the freedom loving people in CA suffer, it emboldens the rest of us to keep the march going. Even as the blissninnies have been winning there, the cause of gun rights has been victorious elsewhere. Eventually we might be able to bring freedom back to CA.
 
NRA help

4570Rick said:
Maybe it's just me, but I'm a little tired of NRA/ILA ignoring the gun owners of CA and holding us up to the rest of the country saying "Don't let this happen to you.":banghead:
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The NRA tried to mount a publicity campaign but with the media so controlled by the left, they can only be so effective.

Also, the day after it passed, the NRA filed suit to have it overturned for two reasons: 1) Violation of Second Amendment and 2) Violation on CA consititution because such matters are to come from the state level, not the local level.

Perhaps they can prevail in court (unless they end up in the Ninth Cirsus, er Circuit, that is . . .
 
As a California freedom fighter, I admit, there is only so much anyone can do here. That means me as a resident and that means national organizations like the NRA and GOA. When you are severely outnumbered by liberals, you are severely outnumbered by liberals.

I don' think it is wise to write off California as many a horrible gun law originates from our liberals representatives, both domestic and federal. Do what you can as a national organization, but I also understand when you don't throw all of your eggs into the PRK scramble.

The only thing I can ask from you out of staters is to give us moral support. Don't tell me to move, don't tell me it is hopeless. I already know I can move and live a better life of liberty. I know how hopeless it is. I could use your simple compassion. If people chose to stay, respect that and encourage them to keep up the fight. Don't tell us how to run things, you don't know. We know what needs to happen, we just want your encouragement. Not everyone is willing to run away from a righteous fight.

That is my two cents.
 
Golden Gate National Rifle Association

is a members council ( NRA ) in SF that can really use your help.

I recently moved out of that commie hell hole but I can tell you that ggnra is a great bunch , never giving up.

The NRA does good work in CA!!!

the ban will never stand, if it does that means towns in the gun friendly shall issue counties of norcal can say it is legal to sell/own/carry AR's & AK's!!!

the ban is a blessing in disguise because it says that city/county can enact their own gun laws and shows that dem's really are gun grabbers
 
Pilgrim said:
It's too bad that San Francisco isn't likely to be hit with a Category 5 hurricane. Something like that would change attitudes, I'm sure.

Pilgrim
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Three words: "San. Andreas. Fault."
 
Just a matter of time before the ban is struck down. Once again the first San Francisco handgun ban in 1982 was thrown out because cities in California have no legal power to make such a law. It is merely a symbolic gesture from extreme liberals that love to waste tax payers money fighting the state and US constitution any chance they get.

And some more words on those California voters. I was born here. It seems to me that a rather large portion of leftists over here are not native Californians. Almost every liberal I know isn't a native Californian. It may be my imagination but thanks to hollyweird and our crazy media industry creating such an image its like all the lefties from all over flock here.
 
We see how well Arcata, Berkeley, Santa Cruz and for that matter Olympia WA. have done in keeping nuclear weapons out of their city limits, don't we? :evil:

One of these days what's left of SFO is going to be able to surf to Reno.

Regards,
Rabbit.
 
Everyone that votedto have Handguns banned and those that vote to have the First Amendment banned should be forced out of their homes and deported to China or to a T.W.C. (Third World Country) because they aren't needed nor wanted here.
 
taliv said:
specifically, it's nothing short of an admission that when anti-gunners use the phrase "sensible gun control" they have ALWAYS meant a complete, total ban, requiring current owners to turn them in.
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Yes, confiscation, which they have always attempted to deny - "we don't want to take guns away from law-abiding citizens".
 
taliv said:
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I'd like to point out that the NRA-ILA would really be letting us down if they didn't wear this quote out on the rest of the country.

specifically, it's nothing short of an admission that when anti-gunners use the phrase "sensible gun control" they have ALWAYS meant a complete, total ban, requiring current owners to turn them in.

And by extension, every time the NRA has opposed the "sensible gun control" laws and proposals, they have really be opposing the complete and total ban.

This seems like a pretty good opportunity to take this damaging phrase away from them.
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