San Fran conceal carry

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I was hoping some one could help me out with this...

My Dad lives in San Francisco and he runs a western union transfer place out of his street level business... What are his chances of getting a CCL since he typically has to take large sums of cash to the bank every day...

I know, I told him to move a bunch of times but good luck convincing him...

Thanks!
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Hmmm... San Francisco. Nancy Pelosi's district.

I'm thinking slim to none. Hell, they will probably throw you in jail for stepping on a roach in Sanfran...
 
My Dad lives in San Francisco and he runs a western union transfer place out of his street level business... What are his chances of getting a CCL since he typically has to take large sums of cash to the bank every day...

Not good...

San Francisco County
Population 793,600, under Sheriff Hennessey, 10 permits, 0.0013% issuance, San Francisco County wins the dishonor of being CA's worst county for CCW. Sheriff Hennessey has been sheriff for twenty years.
 
Crap, I didnt know it was that bad... I figured that with a legitimate reason he could get one but I guess not...

This is one of the many reasons I hate this city...
 
If it were me, I would carry anyway. Save your life at all costs and challenge the law if necessary. Is it better to be legal and dead or illegal and alive.
 
My dad is all about legal... Where we came from, having even a hint of illegal meant hard time in Siberia.... Its hard to stop behaving like that...
 
Assuming he wants it, tell him to apply. The worst thing that can happen is to be told no.
"...My dad is all about legal..." He'd lose his job too.
"...with a legitimate reason..." That doesn't always apply in a lot of places. Logic never applies to firearm laws.
 
He is free to legally carry within his own business any time he wishes, no permit required.
In the state of California anyone may carry within thier own private business, residence, temporary residence, or in various circumstances on different types of property with differing levels of public access.
Anyone with permission from the owner is also free to carry anywhere the owner legally could.

He could not carry legally while transporting money outside his business.
 
Have him contact Preston Guillory and Team Billy Jack to sue for a CCW there. He will get one that way. Currently there is a case pending called Sykes v. McGuinness which is going to crack open the CCW system. Read up on it at Calguns.net.
 
Good luck, SF is awful. I lived in a suburb of SF for the first 18 years of my life and I remember my parents admonishing my sisters and I never tell anyone that they owned guns (well, a gun), because they'd quickly be ostracized from the community. I'm not joking.

The real secret to getting a CCW in California is to give them NO REASON at all to not give you one, and lots of good reasons. Have your father dress professionally, shave, appear as professional as possible, speak softly, and basically be a *perfect* citizen and just beyond polite. Google for some examples of good cause statements, add in anything that might help. Find some statistics on people being robbed of large sums of cash and include those. Include police report info if he or anyone he works with has even been attacked. Your dad has about the best good cause you can have in CA, he just lives in about the worst county. The SFPD and the county sheriff are going to keep bouncing you around as far as who can actually issue. Try to use certified mail with a delivery confirmation/signature required for all correspondence so they cannot backpedal. It's easy to change history on a two person face to face conversation, pretty hard to make a signed letter say anything other than what it says. Send your good cause statement to team Billy Jack to look over. Be prepared to spend a lot of time and money (>6 months and $1000) pursuing this. Your dad has as good a chance as anyone in SF County of getting one...but that's not saying much, being in the top 1% of applicants when they accept .0[lots more zeroes]01%...
 
Wasn't there a bill in CA to change it from may-issue to shall-issue? I got an NRA-ILA Alert a few months ago.
 
My Dad Lives in San Francisco...What are his chances of getting a CCL...

Oh, man! That was good! I dang near shot milk out of my nose laughing at that!

I really hope that was a joke. If it was not a joke then my condolances. He should consider hiring an armored car service to come pick up. They MIGHT be allowed to carry.

I know I really didn't add much to this conversation, but thanks for letting me feel better about where I live. Sometimes it takes something like this for me to really appreciate what I have. My mom owns a comic store and carries out the days take every day. For her birthday my brother and I bought her a nice .38 revolver. She will be taking here handgun permit class soon. Shall Issue is truely a blessing. It is almost as good as the only real permit anyone needs...the Second Amendment.

-Jim
 
If he pays big bucks to the liberal sheriff and joins the Sheriff's Mounted Posse, he can get himself sworn in as a reserve and carry his gun that way. But the mounted posse is a civil unit and is never called out to play po-po. It's a way of rich boys getting badges.
 
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