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Saudis get scholarships to study aviation in U.S.

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  1. Desertdog

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    Saudis get scholarships to study aviation in U.S.
    Program arose from agreement in April
    by President Bush and Prince Abdullah
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50728

    Less than five years after 15 Saudis hijacked airliners to hit American targets, citizens of the desert kingdom are being offered scholarships to study aviation in the U.S.

    According to the Saudi publication Arab News, majors related to the airline transport industry are eligible, including communications, electrical and computer engineering, computer science, systems analysis, air traffic control and flight safety.

    Some of the 9-11 hijackers are known to have been trained at aviation schools in the U.S.

    The new program arose from an agreement in April by President Bush and then-Crown Prince Abdullah aimed at improving relations between the two nations.


    Saudi Arabia's Ministry of Higher Education and the General Authority of Civil Aviation is offering the scholarships. Applicants can download forms on the ministry's website.

    Arab News said applicants for the bachelor's program must have a minimum score of 85 percent in the science section and 90 percent in other sections, such as Quran memorizing.

    Scholarships in other fields of study are available to students studying in Japan, South Korea, Malaysia, Singapore, India, China, Australia and New Zealand.

    In May, the Arizona Daily Star reported the University of Arizona in Tucson enrolled about 100 new Saudi Arabian students as part of the kingdom's new scholarship program, which will send about 6,000 students to American universities this year after just 1,442 Saudi students had visas to study in the United States in 2004.

    As WND reported in February, while U.S. universities welcome the Saudis – especially because Riyadh is paying 100 percent of their tuition and enrollment costs – some critics see potential security problems associated with the tremendous influx of Muslim students from a closed society that virtually invented Wahhabism, the radical brand of Islamism that spawned al-Qaida.

    Because of the agreement, as many as 25,000 Saudi students are expected to arrive over the next five years, with all their bills paid by the Saudi government.

    In February, WND noted the scholarship program was unrolling quietly, without announcement from the Saudi Embassy or the White House. The White House Press Office declined to comment on the program and Saudi embassy officials did not return calls inquiring about it.
     
  2. fourays2

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    I'm surprised they're not getting in-state tution discount like all the illegals do.
     
  3. Pilgrim

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    Ahh, yes. Memorizing the Quran will make them better aviators.

    Pilgrim
     
  4. Manedwolf

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    Shh! We're not supposed to remember that most of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi nationals! :uhoh:

    We're supposed to be thinking they were Iraqis, remember? :rolleyes:
     
  5. Sheldon J

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    I'll give them a scholarship

    all they have to do is stand down range about 100 yards.:barf:
     
  6. Leatherneck

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    This could simply be members of the royal family (God, what a disgusting term) wanting to become pilots for SAUDIA, the royal airline.

    Or not.

    I hope somebody gave them at least a background check. Ya think?

    TC
     
  7. Desertdog

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    You must remember, they are legal.

    I wonder what the next target will be.:eek:
     
  8. Rabbi

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    I was stationed at Keesler AFB, Mississippi in 1965 and the base was CRAWLING with Saudi Air Force flight officers.

    At commander's call, the good Major advised us that they were our strongest allies and to show them "the greatest of respect". They were there to "learn to fly U.S. fighter jets and hone their English skills".

    It was an Article 15 offense to even laugh when they walked around the base holding hands or kissing each other on the mouth.

    We've been licking their sand encrusted buttocks for at least forty-one years of which I am personally aware.
     
  9. wheelgunslinger

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    wow Rabbi. don't hold that stuff in. It'll hurt you.


    Just goes to show, it's all who you know.
     
  10. Fly320s

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    I taught some Saudi's to fly back in '93-95. I also taught Indonesians, Mexicans, Chinese, Japanese, Iranian, British, German and even the occassional American.

    Flight training in the US is cheaper than flight training in most of the rest of the world. So, like many things in life, it all comes down to money. Bush, and probably other unamed business leaders, want to let the foreign students in to the US to spend their money and help our economy.

    FWIW, the article didn't mention anything about flight training, but I would not be surprised if flight training is on the agenda.
     
  11. longeyes

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    Yes, and I'll bet some of those Saudi uncles and aunts are writing nice big checks for the Bush Pharaonic Library, the eighth wonder of the capitalist world.
     
  12. El Tejon

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    longeyes, no, just checks to Purdue University.:D

    This is nothing new simply an expansion of what has been ongoing for decades, and nothing to get silly about. Immediately following 9/11 there was increased federal concern over Muslim students in the US who were studying aero inganearing and the like (white vans suddenly appeared in West Lafayette; I told my guys to wave at them, blow them kisses and send them coffee).
     
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    Quote from Pilgrim:
    "Ahh, yes. Memorizing the Quran will make them better aviators.
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    Yup!
    I think it helps with their dives.
     
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    Then I guess white guys shouldn't be able to learn truck driving?

    I see no problem with Saudi's being trained in flying aircraft in this country. Not all Muslims are crazed terrorist, and the Saudis are an ally in that region we can not afford to lose. Also, if these guys were to be terrorists, there is probably a better chance of picking up there activities here, given the high state of alertness and surveilence. I definetely would want them training here than in their Uncle Omar's big sandy space out back.
     
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    We don't need to "improve relations between the two nations." We need to solve Saudi Arabia's Islamic terrorist savagry problem once and for all.
     
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    This is disgusting...:barf:
     
  17. Sleeping Dog

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    We can keep a better eye on them here.

    If they take notes and ask questions during "navigation and steering" class, that's good.

    But then if they fall asleep or clown around during "take-off and landing" class, that's a bad sign.

    Regards.
     
  18. Jason M.

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    Oh my god, look out, it's Muslims!

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not against monitoring these guys a bit while they are here, but beyong that - no need to get all bothere. And statements like this:
    So they deserve to die because they are Saudi nationals? How can you even say something like that?
     
  19. ball3006

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    There were 8 Saudis in my....

    airline dispatcher class 10 years ago. All of them had a difficult time of it too. I think language with the contributing factor. They were graded different than the rest of us........chris3
     
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    of course

    Opinions may vary in either direction on this... I just know I am glad I won't be one of the trainers that actually turn the controls over to one of these "students" for recording their flight time... In fact, I wish whatever scool they attend would send me regular e-mails on the flight paths, dates and times beforehand. That way I can build a bomb shelter and hide,,, for a bit. If I need too that is...
     
  22. longeyes

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    Saudi Arabia is no more an "ally" of ours than Mexico is. Saudi Arabia is the great font of anti-Western, anti-U.S. sentiment.

    We have a real genius in America these days for rationalizing everything we do for a buck, no matter how suicidal.
     
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    I attended a flight school in Florida in the mid to late 90s that had a large Saudi flight program, and later, Turkish. They came to America to do primary flight training--taking total newbies, putting them in small single-engine airplanes, then up to light twins, before they went off somewhere else for the specialized commercial airline-type training. America is the center of general aviation--there's a huge infrastructure of airports and businesses that focus of light aircraft that doesn't really exist in the rest of the world because, I think, of the attitude of the R.O.W. that flying is reserved for big business and the ultra-rich. Saudis just have an insane amount of money to throw around, and America has flight schools and that welcome the opportunity to train people whose government pays twice the going rate, so it's really natural that they come here.

    I agree that if these people are going to be trained, it should be where Americans make the extra money, and these people can be watched more closely.

    Nobody like the Saudis at my flight school because, since they paid twice what we did, they got priority for the airplanes. An American would be walking out the door with an airplane's keys, only to be called back to have the keys given to a Saudi. The flight instructors also resented the fact that the Saudis got paid twice what the instructors did. I also got the feeling that the Saudis didn't have to work particularly hard at it, and had a feeling of entitlement, which seems to be endemic in oil-rich, Arab countries.
     
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    How Many US Citizens...

    ...will not get to enroll because of these foreigners taking up space in the class rooms?

    Woody

    "The power of those in government to use common sense shall not be infringed. It is first, however, imperative to elect people to those positions of power who possess common sense. Remember that at the next election." B.E.Wood
     
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    saddam is probably rolling over in his jailcell right about now :barf:
     
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