Savage 300 round

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Like I posted before, I have a savage 99 in 300 savage with a leo. 2-7


What is the true range of this round?

What would you sight this gun in at(i would be using 150 grain)


Any comments on the 300 savage would be helpful


also remington is making a 700 rifle in 300 savage which i thought was interesting...check it out on thier site.
 
It is in the same class as the 30/06 with 150 or 180 grain bullets - within 100 feet per second, anyway. The 300 Savage is reputed to be the father of the 308 Winchester/7.62 Nato. Fairly good pedigree, wouldn't you say? I would sight in for whatever you are doing most. :cool:
 
G's right, it's essentially in the same range & performance class as the .30-06 or .308.

I've found that the .300 truly sings with 165-gr. bullets, but the 150s are also an excellent choice.

180's just a little too heavy for the round, in my experience.

The short neck can make things a little dicy at times when you're trying to get enough neck tension. If you have problems with that, reduce the size of the expander ball a little bit at a time by chucking the stem in a drill press and reducing the expander ball with emory cloth.

A lot of people say the .300 in the Savage 99 requires small base dies, but I've not found that to be the case with mine.

IMR-4064 is an excellent powder, a lot of people also swear by WW 748.
 
Equivalent to .308 or '06 ONLY in bolt action! NOT in a lever gun!

Speer #13 sez 46,000 CUP maximum for the .300. 50,000 CUP for the '06. 52,000 CUP for the .308.

"The .300 Savage is effective out to 200 yards on deer-sized game," sez Speer. I'd add that if you're really, really married up to your 99, you could add 50 yards or so to that.

Art
 
It's a 30 caliber. There is nothing magical about the round, other than the fact that you generally shoot it from a lever instead of a bolt. In a bolt action, you can load it to pretty much duplicate the ballistics of the .308. This is because the 300 Savage has about the same case capacity. In a lever, stick with the lower pressure limits of the reloading manuals.

As I said, it's shooting the same bullets. Look at it this way, you simply have to be closer to the target to have the same terminal effect. Some rough calculations gave me the following results. With a 165gr sp bullet, you get this:

With the 300 Win Mag, you could move back 200 yards and have the same energy as the 300 Savage.

With the 308 (or 30-06 for that matter) you could move back about 100 yards for the same effect.

Understand, you're also dealing with a less accurate gun and different bullet drop considerations. Many 300 Savage guns have shorter barrels also. This round itself is great. It's much more versatile than the 30/30 without the unnecessary power you get from the more powerful 30's. It's somewhat limited in the Elk realm or long-range hunting. Range is a very relative thing. I feel comfortable out to about 300 yards with most of my guns. For that range, the 300 Savage will do nicely on everything up through Mule Deer. I wouldn't want to shoot an Elk, Moose, or Bear with it at that range, though, as you aren't as likely to get a clean kill. At that range and considering the velocity drop, bullet placement is critical and it becomes an accuracy issue more than an energy issue. If you can part the hair on a flea's behind at that range, you're fine. Otherwise, I'd keep it down to about 200-250 yards.

My only 300 Savage is an inherited 1899 that I don't hunt with. It's a dandy on the range and fun to shoot but its hunting days are behind it. I'll just keep taking it out for a drive every once in a while so it doesn't feel lonely. :)
 
But, Badger, for hunting whitetail in Alabama, most likely from a stand and at distances under 200 yards, the .300 will do just fine.

I'd sight in for two inches high at 100 yards, which is probably dead on at 175 and an inch low at 200. Well, as close as makes no nevermind.

Whatever 150-grain soft-point bullet gives the best groups is plenty good.

:), Art
 
They have deer in Alabama? I thought somebody had taped sticks to tiny dogs heads! Wow them things were small. Can't you just use a 22lr on them?
 
Good round, I like it a lot!

Especially in my Remington Model 81 auto-shucker! :D
I run 150gr handloads with mine, cycles the recoil-operated gun just fine without excess shoulder battering on the shooter.
 
"Equivalent to .308 or '06 ONLY in bolt action! NOT in a lever gun!

Speer #13 sez 46,000 CUP maximum for the .300. 50,000 CUP for the '06. 52,000 CUP for the .308."

Late .300s, made with the modified frame (which some call the "M" model) are fully capable of handling .308 level pressures.

Why?

Because the "M" frame was a beefed up frame specifically designed to handle the .308-class cartridges that Savage added to its line up in the 1950s.

I have to treat my 99 a little gently, though. It was made in 1936.

My 721 Remington? I upload for it.
 
Gewehr98-Can ya help out again? Am also in possesion of Rem 81 300 savage, but haven't reloaded for it yet. Any favorite combinations? Know of source for new recoil spring?

Mine has some earlier style peep sights mounted on it, was only gun i could afford at an auction several years ago. Tried factory rounds through it, the brass barely got ejected?

Thanks, your help is always valued and has been appreciated.
 
Zeke, as soon as I can get into my reloading database...

I'll put up the loads I assembled for my .300 Savage Remington Model 81. That computer's down for a pair of CPU upgrades right now. :(
 
I would say that a modern M99 should be able to handle anything you can put in it.
Back in the day, my dad decided he wanted to try reloading for his .300. He didn't know anything about reloading, but that didn't stop him. He loaded cases clear full of IMR 4320 then tamped the powder in with a Sierra 150gr Spitzer. He noted that after a few rounds, his shoulder really hurt and the gun was having trouble extracting, so he discontinued the use of those rounds.
I have no idea what pressure those rounds were putting out, but it goes to show you that even if you are an idiot, the Savage will hold.
My preference goes toward bolt guns and mil-surps, but I will still one day have a .308 M99 with a rotary magazine.
 
I really liked the .300 Sav loaded with the Speer 150 Grand Slam, or the 150 Core-Lokt, these are shorter bullets well suited to the small case. At 100 yards, deer never know what hit them. Even a couple deer I shot too far back folded up immediately.

I like Reloader 15, finding it no big trick to make 2600 fps with 150's. Varget would probably be another good powder.

M99's can be startlingly accurate, too.

I always thought it was a perfect Texas stand rifle - load FMJ's for turkey, soft points for deer, just depending on what walked in range.:D
 
Zeke, I found my .300 Savage Remington Model 81 loads!

With 147gr FMJBT milsurp bullets, I run 38.0 grains of IMR 4064. These cycle the recoil-operated gun just fine, without throwing the brass too far back over my right shoulder. IMR4895 might be a better powder for this application, at the time I worked up this load, I had 4 pounds of IMR4064 sitting unused. ;)
 
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