peacebutready
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Just now I learned the shotguns made in China get the Savage Arms/Stevens label slapped on them. How do they compare to recent Maverick 88, Mossberg 500, and Remington 870 in terms of quality/reliability?
Savage/Stevens shotguns made in China; compared to...
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1911 guy
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I have only one experience with a chinese made shotgun, and it was, surprisingly, good. I still have the gun.
Several years ago, a local shop was offering a Savage 320 Security (chinese knockoff of Winchester 1300) as a package deal with buying a case of Federal 00 buck. I bit. Put several hundred rounds of birdshot, buckshot and slugs through it. Worked just fine with no issues. Sighted it in at 50 yards with slugs and now it's my HD shotgun.
Several years ago, a local shop was offering a Savage 320 Security (chinese knockoff of Winchester 1300) as a package deal with buying a case of Federal 00 buck. I bit. Put several hundred rounds of birdshot, buckshot and slugs through it. Worked just fine with no issues. Sighted it in at 50 yards with slugs and now it's my HD shotgun.
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I agree. I have a H&R Pardner Pump Protector that is a 870 clone but with a square back receiver. I belive it is a Hawk that Remington bought out. Excellent gun. Very soild and smooth operation. It feels closer to my old Wingmaster than the current 870s I've handled. All for 149.00 new. Plus it's a 5+1 (6+1 if you remove the little internal spring/cap plug) and accepts most 870 aftermarket parts.
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I've heard good reports about them, especially the 870 "knock-off", most parts interchange with the exception of, I believe, the barrel. China has a long history of manufacturing. Norinco, the state operated gun producer, has been turning out quality weapons for quite some time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norinco
I think if you found a good deal on one, or wanted a cheap gun you can beat up or mod and not ruin the value, then yes probably a Chinese made gun would fit your criteria. I wouldn't go out of my way to buy one over an American made one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norinco
I think if you found a good deal on one, or wanted a cheap gun you can beat up or mod and not ruin the value, then yes probably a Chinese made gun would fit your criteria. I wouldn't go out of my way to buy one over an American made one.
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And not just the same price, but with a huge after market parts selection that's interchangeable with the Mossberg 500.
peacebutready
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IIRC, the Maverick and Mossberg aren't interchangeable.
It seems the Maverick is in the price range of the Chinese clones. The Mossberg is more expensive.
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It is, but not by a lot. Don't get me wrong, the Chinese made Savage i have is worth more than I paid for it and I have no plans to dump it. But if i were specifically shopping for a shotgun and had a couple hundred bucks to do so, I'd choose a Mossberg over the Savage. It's just that "free with buckshot purchase" is too good a price to pass up. I own several Mossbergs, too. They're my choice since i don't like the Remington stocks. But I don't feel cheated with my Savage and I'm not worried it's going to fall apart on me. I'd does, however, kick like a rabid mule.
peacebutready
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IIRC, the Mossberg 500 is about $100 more than the Savage.
The Stevens 350 is an Ithaca knock off.
I saw one in person. The finish is a cheap and nasty coarse black parkerizing, and the action is a little rough.
They generally are somewhere around $200 and get decent reviews, though.
Savage doesn't import an 870 copy. The H&R Pardners and Hawk shotguns get excellent reviews, though. A lot of people think they are better than the 870 Express.
I saw one in person. The finish is a cheap and nasty coarse black parkerizing, and the action is a little rough.
They generally are somewhere around $200 and get decent reviews, though.
Savage doesn't import an 870 copy. The H&R Pardners and Hawk shotguns get excellent reviews, though. A lot of people think they are better than the 870 Express.
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I bought a Stevens security 12 gauge a little over a year ago. It was the Black Friday special at Academy that was still on sale at Christmas time. I paid about $150. I was really surprised to see that it was made in the P.R.C when I got it home. It's a really good shotgun. It's not as polished as my old Wingmaster, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with it and it shoots every time.
danez71
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The safeties are in different locations (tang vs trigger gaurd) so that means they're not 100% interchangeable by default.
But many of the internal parts are compatible aso well as the stocks, slides, and barrels.
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For barrels and stocks they are absolutely interchangeable.
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I've got a Chinese H&R Pardner pump for HD. Remington stocks& accessories fit on it. It is heavier than an 870, built like a tank. Out of the box the action was not very smooth, but after shooting a few hundred round thru it it made it a bit slicker. The extra weight is nice when shooting heavy loads. It has functioned flawlessly.
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