SAW 1 - somewhat became a reality for me today

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Glad your okay ....

"Geralds Game" by Stephen King .... that's exactly what I was thinking .... did you have a glass of water near by ? :eek:

:neener:
 
no. A bottle of coke was just out of reach however. Only really thought about it at the end when I was wondering how long I was going to be stuck.
 
Thanks for posting... I'm sure its quite embarrassing, but you did entertain us all! Next time bring a cell phone, and practice on your bedpost or something.
 
I doubt there will be a next time, unless I have somebody who already is well-versed in the escape there to teach me (and who stays there the whole time for safety's sake).

There are a lot of things in life that are embarassing. I'm sure everybody here has done something unbelievably stupid. This is my story of that event.

I knew it would entertain some, and I also knew that it might serve as a fair warning for others. I'll admit in retrospect, it's darn funny. Stand-up comedy material possibly. In fact I'lle ven go so far as to say I'm glad some of you were entertained. There's no sense in passing up a good opportunity to laugh, especially when all ended well. It's good for you - promotes good health.

I'm not thrilled about the response of my neighbors, or that of the HOA. However, it did reinforce one thing. For the most part my friends, we're on our own. The average person out there doesn't care if you live or die. They think they do. They might even say when asked that they're a loving, compassionate person, always willing to help. However, actions speak much louder than words. Look at the Catherine "Kitty" Genovese murder of 1964 if you want a high-profile example.

I see plenty of posts on gun-related forums about how if they were witnessing a murder, and were armed, they'd just walk away because of fear of the legal ramifications.

That may have been what happened. Unfortunately where I live, I have a bad feeling a fair number of the residents are "off the grid" so to speak. "Please somebody call the police" to them could have for all I know provoked thoughts of, "The police? I don't need them asking questions to me, so I'm not calling." Even my next-door neighbor on the other side, who speaks no english, gave me a sheepish look yesterday morning when I saw him and was fixing the door. He walked out of his apartment, had been there all night. He knew what had happened. He heard me. He just didn't call.

Who did call you ask? A school-teacher. Somebody who has already dedicated their life to helping others despite terrible pay and terrible conditions. That says something to me. Police officers are of the same breed in my opinion. They have decided to make their life's work (or at least a part of it) making society better. Helping others. Sure some aren't of that breed and don't belong.... but I can say that the officers who responded, while they may very well (and with sufficient circumstances) label me a kook, they helped me. They set aside their thoughts of, "Wow, this guy must be a Darwin candidate or something." - and did something to help me out. I can't complain. I have a feeling they contacted the HOA today, and that may have something to do with me getting the boot - but that's their job ultimately. They don't know me well enough to know that I'm a good guy who is usually very smart, who just had a total bonehead moment (as do we all at some point). Mine involved cuffs.... fortunately it was harm free in the end. Many others' might involve power-tools, cars, etc... and unfortunately they might not be so lucky as me to walk away unharmed permanently. My arm hurts like hell, it will heal. My pride is broken. Time will mend it. I am thoroughly humiliated, and how the heck I'm going to eventually explain this to my father (as I'm 100% honest about my life with my parents) - I haven't a clue. However, he's my father, I know he'll back me up, even if he has a moment of wondering, "Did those genes come from my side or his mother's?" Having watched them for half of their lives, I can confidently say - both. ;)

However, getting back. I could take the standpoint of, "The world isn't going to help me, so why should I help them?" - but that's not who I am. I have a ham radio license, not just because it's fun, but because in a time of emergency, I'm more than happy to go around the neighborhood and tell people, "If you have an emergency during this, I may have the last line of communication available if all else are down." I am going to take EMT classes in a few months (as I'll have a few month vacation before the "hard stuff" begins) - and that's not for me. It's for my family, for my neighbors, and for the average Joe who might need it. I've witnessed 3 deaths in person in my life. 2 of which I couldn't do anything about in time. The third I could, but didn't know how. I'll be spending hard earned money to make sure that doesn't happen again.

We here on THR should always take the high road in life. Society breaks down when we just think of ourselves and nobody else. It's funny that being stuck in cuffs for 6 hours reinforced that in my mind after a day of shame.... but it's the truth. We can own all the guns in the world, but at the end of the day, our survival is for better or for worse: intertwined into the lives of others, as is theirs.

Whether it's for somebody who does the most unimaginably dumb thing in the world like I did, or its for a guy on the street who falls down from a heart attack, the more helpful we can all be, the better our society will be.

Maybe I'm rambling... maybe I'm making at least 1% worth of sense. I don't know. I've had this hodgepodge of ideas pop into my head today about this as I've spent the last 24 hours wondering, "Why did nobody want to help? Why did nobody call the police for 6 hours? I know they couldn't hear me for probably the first 3. Totally understandable. However, after that with all the people I managed to get the attention of, the fact that none of them did anything - is scary. That needs to change. I say it starts with us, if it hasn't already.

I may never need the help of an emergency responder like the police again. I pray that is the case. However, I know there will be plenty of others who need help, and I can only hope there is somebody who cares there for them. I know if it is me there, I will be. Legal issues aside, an emergency is an emergency. I'm not a very religious man, but I do have some level of feeling inside that in the long-run, we will be rewarded for doing the right thing.

*ramble off*
 
About 20 years ago, a newly arrived in Germany, Military Police 2LT (who shall remain nameless) was being issued his DLO gear and prompty cuffed not only one hand, but also the second hand within ten seconds of each other.



Prior to the supply sergeant issuing him the key. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:




The supply officer found it most entertaining. The supply sergeant almost had a stroke, heart attack and nearly chocked to death trying not to laugh.

The supply officer ordered the supply sergeant not to give me....errr..... my friend the key, until she had stopped laughing. :fire: :fire: :fire:


I feel you pain. I hate handcuffs. :eek:
 
Geez, at least you didn't get robbed in the process.

I know life isn't always like the movies, but I'm just sayin' I've seen tv/movies where someone seemingly stopped to help someone in need, realized how vulnerable they were, and robbed em blind right in front of them...

Maybe it's a good thing a passerby didn't stop to 'help' you in the middle of the night!

Stay safe.

Karz
 
I guess I just can't believe I'm getting kicked out for this.

Door is fixed 100%, paid out of pocket (of course - I wouldn't expect anybody else to pay for that) ... no cosmetic issues for the HOA to complain about. Looks 100% up to specs.

First thing I've ever done that caused any problem in the years I've been here. Never caused them any trouble, never complained about anything, never even violated any rules (not even with this).

Yeah, sure I did something dumb.... but it turned out fine and I didn't harm anybody but myself... and even with myself it was just my pride that took a beating.

I guess I shouldn't care because I was already going to move out.... but it just makes things sour when you're getting kicked out, even if it technically doesn't make all that much of a difference. I'm always the good guy who follows the rules, and never causes any trouble.... so for my one time stupid problem to be enough to revoke my HOA rights to live here....

well, it just has me in shock... and gotta admit it lowered my pride even more. :rolleyes:

I'm sure I'll forget about this in say 10 years.... but it sure sucks right now. Feeling pretty low here.

I'm starting to wonder what will be next. The cops saw I had firearms as my drawer was half open when they got there which has my HD gun, and my closet had my safe with ammo cans. I gotta wonder if in a day or so I'm going to be in a world of trouble. I haven't broken any laws.... but that doesn't prevent me from being in a world of trouble from the stories I've read on THR and elsewhere.

Maybe I'm just letting this get to my head too much and being too hard on myself. I don't know.
 
<< guess I just can't believe I'm getting kicked out for this.>>


That’s how the Homeowners Assoc. is. Read your contract and /or see a lawyer


<<Door is fixed 100%, paid out of pocket (of course - I wouldn't expect anybody else to pay for that) ... no cosmetic issues for the HOA to complain about. Looks 100% up to specs.

First thing I've ever done that caused any problem in the years I've been here. Never caused them any trouble, never complained about anything, never even violated any rules (not even with this).>>


These things don’t matter. It’s whatever, the board thinks. It’s the board that makes those contracts. And to decide if one is suitable to live in their complex/ private community.


<<I guess I shouldn't care because I was already going to move out.... but it just makes things sour when you're getting kicked out, even if it technically doesn't make all that much of a difference. I'm always the good guy who follows the rules, and never causes any trouble.... so for my one time stupid problem to be enough to revoke my HOA rights to live here...>>


This can..... If you decide to buy a house from another Homeowners Assoc.
Also, I take it that you do own your dwelling? They can’t kick you out, without buying you out. Unless, their is something in your contract that states that.
I knew a woman who had her house taken because of back maintenance fees owed.

p.s. I own a home,..... but not in a Homeowners Assoc. Nor do I care to own one with a Homeowners Assoc. attached to it.
 
<<Swear HOA's are the equivilant of 1930's era Al Capone>>

Worse. When they can tell you what kind of x-mas lights you can put up!? And they can. Where even scarface would not care, as long as you handed over the "dough'" every month.
But, Hey. Their are some that want that kind of lifestyle.
 
Just keep you head up as always TheEconomist.

From reading your #81st post; it looks like everything will be fine.

Take care buddy and I hope you do pull off a successful handcuff escape with someone supervising you buddy.
 
Man that sucks, I feel for you because it is really not all that hard to get caught in situations where you know you're screwed and in a bit of a predicament and it generally happens so quickly. You get that sinking feeling when the reality of it sets in. Hindsight is 20-20 but I would have just kept dialing 911. They have caller ID and after getting continuous calls from you they would have dispatched a cop to see if there is a problem or at the least to charge you for tying up the emergency line.
 
Those of you who laugh - it's ok. I won't take offense. As I already said, it's clearly the dumbest thing I've ever done. I'm sure one day I'll be able to laugh about it, but I will admit that it was terrifying at the time.

Being late to the thread (out of town), I'll post anyway. Way back at the dawn of time, I was a brand new Butter Bar Lieutenant in the, you guessed it, Military Police Corps. Getting ready one evening to go on the swing shift as the MP Duty Officer (read Watch Commander or sort of). Fooling around with the wife, we end up cuffed together and the little paddle-tip breaks off the cuff key. Wife finds this absolutely hillarious, ROFL-funny. I teach four-year-old son several new words.

Oh the agony of it all. Twenty minutes to guard mount. Anyway, to make a long story short, cut the chain between the cuffs. Shove the cuff up under my Class A blouse sleeve (lucky it was winter uniform all the time at that post). Hold guard mount (didn't conduct a man-by-man inspection, let the Platoon Sergeant / Patrol Supe do it). Go to Supply Room, get another key. Dump the cuff on my arm. When the troops are all on the road, go by my quarters and let my wife out of hers — she's still laughing. I am still mad (mostly at myself).

Have to pay for the damn cuffs (hand receipt, you know). Wife blows the secret at next Officers' Call. Certificate appears in my office made out to Lieutenant Handcuff within days.

So, can you eventually laugh at it yourself? Yeah, it only took me about 20 years. Bear up. :D
 
Note to self:
Next time I have to be rescued from being handcuffed, in my underwear, in an embarrassing situation, use the "learning a magic trick" excuse!


Just kidding:D Thanks for sharing
 
Swear HOA's are the equivilant of 1930's era Al Capone

What, prison? Al Capone served ten months in 1929-30 for weapons possession and was tried in Federal court in 1931 for tax evasion and began serving time for that in 1932. He was released in 1939.

Sorry, I couldn't help myself. :)
 
It certainly highlights how little help you can expect to get from neighbors when you need it
:uhoh: :eek:

Absolutely! Wow! I can't believe so many people just ignored you like that. You could go around to their houses tomorrow and say, "yeah, hey, you heard the guy yelling last night? That was my brother. He accidentally locked himself to the balcony, and froze to death last night - because you laughed at him instead of heeding his calls for help."

Or maybe not.

At any rate, I think it's time for that McGyver 101 class you've been putting off. You could've used the drape rod to pic the key hole!
 
It's rare that I can actually say Gecko45 had a good idea. lol - the original one that is....

Maybe I should have a plastic surgeon put a key under a layer of skin somewhere. :neener:

I let go of my grudge regarding the people who didn't care and didn't respond. Like I said, I'm not a religious man, but I believe you get rewarded for doing the right thing.... and that eventually you get punished for doing the wrong. What goes around comes around eventually in life.

I called the local police station today (non-emergency line of course) and asked to speak with the supervisor. I told him that I couldn't have been more impressed with the officers' response and their professionalism and that I truly thank them for all that they did.

Then came the kicker, "Sir, actually that wasn't this station. That was the #### station that responded. However, I did hear about the story, care to tell me what happened?" - and so I was honest with the guy and ended with telling him that even though I called the wrong station (I didn't realize there was another station around here - must be an even closer one I've never seen) - I still thanked him anyways and told him that if he happened to speak to the other station, to tell them how thankful I am.

Word gets around fast apparently. Oh well. I'll just leave it at that one phone call to say thank you, and now I'm just going to try to let this memory fade away.

I guess the next gun purchase I make (whenever that is) will tell me whether or not this mistake has caused me any additional trouble. I'm ok with the local PD thinking I'm an idiot. Couldn't blame them. I just hope this kind of thing doesn't hinder my ability to continue my life.

I am a little worried that any dreams I ever had of applying for the FBI somewhere might be shattered as I have to wonder if this will show up on a background check.

- TheEconomist (who is keeping his chin up, but is albeit a bit nervous)
 
I called the local police station today (non-emergency line of course) and asked to speak with the supervisor. I told him that I couldn't have been more impressed with the officers' response and their professionalism and that I truly thank them for all that they did.

Right on! That was really nice of you. :) I bet the officers will appreciate it.
 
I can only imagine the sinking feeling you must have felt when you relized that the key was dropping off your balcony.....

That is pretty crappy though, and to be honest, I never laughed...but I did grin a lot.

No worries mate, this will make an excellent story for anyone and everyone in a year or so.;)

Good luck on getting things sorted out.
 
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