Saw Equilibrium, have questions

[Cosmoline]

It was good, not great

I liked it less for the gunplay and more for the storyline, which was akin to a good "Twilight Zone" episode. The gunplay seemed pretty silly. Also, [RANT MODE ON] I am SICK AND TIRED of all the films that do the "staying-up-after-they're-already-dead" nonsense. This happens several times in the film, when soldiers are seemingly frozen after getting a bunch of bullets through them, then the all fall over dead. The finale, where a guy gets all chopped up but somehow stays together for a minute, is silly. It was cool at the opening of "The Cube." It was silly but unnerving at the opening of "Ghost ship." It's now old and tired, and should not be used anymore. [RANT MODE OFF]

 

[Kobun]

Gunhead:

Have you ever heard about a .300WM or .308win calibre subgun? Me not.

I have. In 308win.
Shot one last year. Fun!

HK-51

 

[pale horse]

I have been reading about it for months so I bought it on wednesday and watched it on thursday. I loved it. 10 times better than the Matrix.

Great parts:

Sword fight with trainer swords/bokens.

Pistol whipping was cool too.

The lie detector when it goes beeeeeeeeeeep and then the fun starts up.

The dog sceen at night.

Yeah this movie was the only one I ever bought with out seeing it first, well for myself. I watched it with my brother and he loved the gunkatia and then asked if it was real. He is older than me and we both had grins on our muggs for a bit after.

I give it 2 M1 thumbs way up.

 

[Kalvan]

Heard about the flick on TFL and saw it in the theater when it was playing here for about 4 days. Loved it. I hadn't seen either "The Cube" or "Ghost Ship" (and likely never will) so the sword thing was new to me. I agree that it was better to have the kid not turn him in. I thought it was kinda dumb that he saved and hid the used doses. RE: the shotgun used to kill the dogs, I saw one of these Benelli M1 Practicals briefly in a store and I thought this was what they were using, but it happens pretty fast so it's hard to see. The muzzle brake was rather distinctive though.

 

[twoblink]

GUNKATA!!

The traditional Chang Kai Shek outfits were cool!

Better shooting through thorough understanding of mathematics and geometry. BS? Probably, but that didn't prevent me from enjoying the movie..

My gf thought it boring, and so I fast forwarded the entire story, just showed her all the cool fighting.

I think the best part however, is at the end, the sword fight. I got all comfy for a nice long, 5-10 minute sword fight.. and it was 5 seconds! I loved it! Fooled me!

CB is an AWESOME actor! He scared the brown stains out of me in Shaft. He did such an awesome job in that movie. He's so serious about all his roles. I became a big fan of his after Shaft..

 

[TheMariner]

check out these sites if you loved the movie
http://www.chud.com/news/dec02/dec02eq.php3
http://www.gunkatta.com/home.htm

first is an interview wit the director... second is a site about eh movie...


READ THE INTERVIEW... you won't believe how long Bale had to do most of those combat scenes...

 

[George Hill]

Equilibrium: 20 Million.
Matrix Reloaded's Freeway Chase Scene ALONE: 25 Million.

Equilibrium is the better investment. Don't get me wrong - Reloaded rocked... But Equilibrium is what you get when you are not worried about wires and special effects and stuff... and just want to tell a story as best as you can.
The power of the acting alone kicks the trash out most other movies. The performances alone puts this sleeper on higher plane than others....

When I watched it with my wife - she busted out crying when Preston was "Too Late". She was sobbing. "He didn't make it!? What do they mean he is too late?!" My wife doesn't get weepy about very many movies - but the acting touched her. That says a lot.

This movie is so underrated it isn't even funny.

 

[George Hill]

Oh, and GHOST SHIP and THE CUBE totally blew.
Horrible films. Ghost Ship COULD have been interesting if it wasn't so obviously predictable. It could have been so much better with a little effort.

You want to see a good haunted ship kinda flick?

From the Director of Pitch Black - "BELOW". Das Boot but with a haunting and some good twists. You'll like it. Trust me. Solid performances. Some guns too. 1911 and a Tommy get some work... but not too much. Good movie... but rent it before you buy it.

 

[C-Note]

Absolutely loved Equilibrium. I also thought the score by Klaus Badelt was awesome. If you haven't played the movie through the closing credits, do so now. Some of the best music I've heard in a long time. Unfortunately, the soundtrack for Equilibrium will probably never be released, so I "rolled my own" soundtrack:

I used DVD Decrypter to rip the movie's closing credits as a VOB file.
I then used DVD2AVI to extract the audio as a WAV file from the VOB.
SoundForge was then used to normalize the WAV and compress it to a 224kbps MP3 file.
The results were impressive. 6 1/2 minutes of pure sonic enjoyment. The sound quality is simply amazing.

If anyone is interested in the MP3, let me know.

 

[C-Note]

Please God, help me to get this movie out of my DVD player! I can't stop watching it.

Apparently, Kurt Wimmer, the director of Equilibrium, is coming out with a new movie. "Ultraviolet" will have a larger budget. The action scenes should blow away those in Equilibrium (I'll believe it when I see it).
http://www.chud.com/news/mar03/mar28uv.php3

 

[geekWithA.45]

LOL:

From http://www.gunkatta.com/faq.htm

10. I accidently shot myself in the foot, what should I do? Stop trying to do gunkata with real guns moron. If you were using a paintball handgun, it's still going to hurt like a bitch though. Be Careful.

I enjoyed the movie, but it seems to me in the real world that gunkata is an optimized way to expend all of your ammunition while wounding the least number of opponents.

 

[GSB]

Somehow, I suspect in Japan there are a bunch of Kendo and Kenjutsu practitioners talking on a BBS in Tokyo about how unrealistic the sword fights in Highlander are...

 

[George Hill]

C-Note - Yeah, Id like that MP3!

 

[Bullet Tooth]

The gun questions have already been answered for the most part, but equillibrium was an amazing movie

the fight/battle scenes were intelligent, as opposed to extravagant

just imagine what the movie could have been if they had the budget of the matrix

 

[C-Note]

Klaus Badelt MP3 (Equilibrium Score)

Hi George,

Do you (or anyone else interested) have an FTP or website I can upload the MP3 to? It's pretty large; 10.4MB, but the sound quality is incredible.

If you don't have any server space, I could probably upload it to my ISP's News server (alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.soundtracks). However, the News server has been twitchy of late.

 

[Don Gwinn]

The only thing that really disturbed me about GunKata was the practice of standing still in one place in the center of a ring of bad guys. This appears to be the preferred method of dealing with multiple opponents in GunKata. They talk a lot about "minimizing the risk to yourself by not occupying the statistically most likely space for your enemy's bullets to pass," but then they stand stock still.

And yet, it is cool. And cool is good.

I thought the glowing red barrels and slides were a great touch at the end of the first firefight; the director noted that he was surprised people understood what they were. I think it would have been clearer and less jarring if they'd been glowing the entire time, but that would have ruined his "total blackness thing."

Great movie. Sean Bean is the man. I was surprised that Wimmer said he didn't really cast Bean on the strength of other performances. Of the man who played countless bad guys, Boromir of Gondor, the SAS Wannabe from Ronin and a bunch of other great roles, Wimmer said "I knew him, basically, as 006." But it all worked out.

Oh, and I like the Cadillacs. If those things were rear-wheel-drive (or AWD) they'd be perfect.

 

[C-Note]

Okay, I posted the mp3 to this newsgroup:
alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.soundtracks

Look for a post by C-Note and download the attached mp3. It is complete on my ISP's server.

Let me know what you think of it.

 

[George Hill]

I can't find it... can you post a direct link?

 

[Average Guy]

I'm glad to see everyone enjoying this movie. I saw it in December, then marked my calendar for the DVD release way back in January and counted the minutes so I could get off work and go buy it.

Here's another site, FWIW: www.grammatoncleric.com

 

[C-Note]

CLICK HERE

Go there and click the folder:
"BisonKid - Equilibrium, complete score"

Download (Right-click, Save Target As...) the first file titled: Klaus_Badelt-Equilibrium.mp3

Since it's an FTP site, it might take a few moments for the download to start. If it doesn't work, just try again in a few minutes. That's just the way FTP sites work.

The rest of the mp3's there (if you want them. Not bad quality) are from a bootlegged version of the score.

 

[Beav]

As much as I like the movie, I have to say that two of the fight sequences could have been little more believeable to me, but overall the good fight scenes more than made up for them. Also didn't care for the delayed face thing at the end, if it happened instantly or not at all I would have believed it more.

Got to see Matrix Reloaded couple days ago...disappointing.

 

[Beav]

thanks for the link C-Note!

 

[Dorrin79]

I had one nit-picky question about Equilibrium.

It doesn't reflect my opinion of the movie (it RULED) or have any impact on the plot, but here goes...

Why was Preston so much better than the rest of the Clerics? The movie didn't seem to offer any real explanation for why Preston was able to shoot\slice\kung-fu his way through half the security apparatus of Libria. Was he gene-engineered or something?

Like I said, it isn't really important. But it did make me wonder on 3rd viewing.

 

[Beav]

I just assumed he was the Tiger Woods of Gunkata.

Remember the scene where he is practicing and Brandt shows up. Brandt says something to the effect of "Always practicing to be the best" or something like that.

 

[TheMariner]

What I got from the movie is that he drilled himself to near perfection in all things of his job, including gunkata. Hence, he becomes the best cleric and the ideal person to fall from the Grammaton to give teh rebellion's chances a desparately needed boost.