SBR under old AWB

[REOIV]

I was just thinking, how were SBRs handled under the old AWB?

Since NFA is covered under another act wouldn't that be essentially an easy ($200 tax and trust vs not at all) means of side stepping any future AWB for those states that allow NFA ownership?

Just make rifles SBRs and then offer replaceable barrels for them or threaded extensions etc.

You pay your $200 tax stamp and voila covered.

Anyway does anyone have any ideas how that works? Does NFA trump Assault weapon laws etc?

 

[Ridgeway]

you must still comply w/all laws
a post-ban ar sbr still needed to comply w/the ban
just as sbr's now need to (arguably) comply w/922r

bottom line, you can't/couldn't thwart the awb through making a sbr

 

[Henry Bowman]

But you could go with full auto (if you could afford it and was allowed in you state), since AWB only applied to semiauto.

 

[Prince Yamato]

you must still comply w/all laws
a post-ban ar sbr still needed to comply w/the ban
just as sbr's now need to (arguably) comply w/922r

You're incorrect on both accounts. The AWB only applied to title I items. You could still build SBRs and AOWs with all the evil features to your heart's content. I remember reading an article on building an "assault pistol" during the AWB. The way to get around the AWB was to build an AOW or SBR. 922(r) only applies to rifles. It doesn't apply to the Title II stuff.

 

[Ridgeway]

922(r) only applies to rifles. It doesn't apply to the Title II stuff.

this is most definitly not the position that the atf presently holds

as i indicated: arguably
but i have no interest in being the test case in disproving the atf & putting my $ & freedom on the line

i'll wait to hear the opinion of more individuals re: the 1st pt

 

[Gene_WI]

922(r) only applies to rifles. It doesn't apply to the Title II stuff.
this is most definitly not the position that the atf presently holds

Ridgway
Do you have a reference on an ATF ruling for this?
It was mu understanding that SBR did not fall under 922(r)

 

[mp510]

The AWB only applied to title I items. You could still build SBRs and AOWs with all the evil features to your heart's content.

False. ATF allowed prebans to remain prebans when registered as title II firearms after 13 SEP 94, however they did not allow post-ban SBR's to have evil features. There was no "except when the firearm is a duly registered and tax paid" language in the crime bill.

 

[mp510]

922(r) only applies to rifles. It doesn't apply to the Title II stuff.
this is most definitly not the position that the atf presently holds

Ridgway
Do you have a reference on an ATF ruling for this?
It was mu understanding that SBR did not fall under 922(r)

This is Codecyphers letter from ATF about 922r and SBR's.



SBR's must comply with 922r. Again, there is no Title II exemption.

 

[Ridgeway]

that is the letter to which i was referring

it of course contradicts this letter:
http://www.nfaoa.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=161

so basically proceed @ your own risk
one camp says 922r doesn't apply, the other says it does
i'll sit it out and spend an extra few $ on compliance parts just to be safe (same as with the engraving issue)
better to err on the side of caution imo