SC Bill to allow CCW on College Campuses!

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Legislation would allow concealed weapons on campuses
By SEANNA ADCOX - Associated Press Writer

COLUMBIA, S.C. --
Some South Carolina lawmakers believe allowing people to carry concealed weapons on school campuses could prevent massacres like last month's slayings at Virginia Tech.

Nearly 20 lawmakers have signed on to a measure that would allow concealed weapons on public school and college campuses. If signed in to law, South Carolina would join Utah as the only states that have laws allowing people to carry hidden weapons on campuses.

The bill's sponsor, Rep. Jeff Duncan, said Monday that such a measure could have stopped Virginia Tech student Seung-Hui Cho from killing 32 people during his rampage.

"He walked in that building without anybody having the ability to stop him," said Duncan, R-Clinton, whose bill is set for House debate Wednesday. "That guy was fairly certain no one on that campus other than security had firearms and could protect themselves."

Rep. Mike Pitts, a retired police officer, said such tragedies can never be prevented altogether but that a "trained individual with a handgun" could contain the damage.

"He could have killed two or three. He could not have killed 32," said Pitts, R-Laurens, who holds a concealed weapon permit, as does his daughter, a soon-to-be college graduate. "Police are a thin blue line. They can't be everywhere."

U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales has said that having more guns on college campuses is not the way to prevent campus violence. Instead, authorities should enforce existing laws concerning the ownership and use of handguns, he said during a speech last week in Oklahoma.

Nationwide, 38 states - including Virginia and South Carolina - ban weapons at schools. Of those, 16 explicitly prohibit weapons on college campuses, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

To obtain a concealed weapon permit in South Carolina, a resident must be at least 21, undergo at least eight hours of handgun training, and pass criminal and mental background checks. More than 53,150 South Carolina residents have permits to carry concealed weapons, according to the State Law Enforcement Center.

Duncan's measure doesn't specify who would be allowed to carry the weapons and he said Monday he's willing to limit gun holders on campuses to school staff. He said he'd feel better knowing the principal or another employee at his three young sons' school had access to a weapon.

Clemson University senior Andrew Davis, chairman of the Clemson Conservatives, contacted legislators to push the idea after the Virginia Tech shootings. The 22-year-old Surfside Beach native said the Virginia Tech massacre "clearly shows campus police forces don't have the manpower to secure the entire campus."

"It reawakened the feeling inside that as a student, I had a need to protect myself," Davis said. He said he plans to undergo training for a permit after he graduates later this week.

Clemson University police Chief Johnson Link declined comment on the bill, saying he needs to study it.

Jonathan Knight, director of academic freedom at the Washington-based American Association of University Professors, said he thinks the proposal could incite more violence than it stops. Tragedies like the one at Virginia Tech, the deadliest shooting rampage in modern U.S. history, are remembered because they're so rare, Knight said.

He said he fears what would happen if guns are legally allowed on campuses. The relationship between students and the professors who grade them could also be damaged, he said. "Would we expect a shootout in the classroom?" he asked.

The South Carolina School Boards Association also opposes the idea.

"It is disconcerting that we are considering a proposal that would open the flood gates for more weapons in school - even lawful ones," said association Director Paul Krohne.

He said legislators should instead provide money for a police officer in every school and an emergency notification system for every classroom.

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This is great! We would become like Utah! I am going to go write my reps now to support this.

And tell the School Boards Association where they can stick it.
 
Last fall there was a big deal about a guy trying to CCW on the campus of VT.
As you can see how well the no gun thing worked out.
 
With the vast majority of poor victims at VT choosing to die like sheep rather than to make a furious defense, it makes even better sense to allow good folks who are screened and duly licensed to carry concealed on college campuses.

T.
 
There is one drawback to allowing the staff of colleges to CCW on campus. According to my wife who’s a chemistry professor, there would be way too much temptation to use it on her students.:p Especially on the ones who continuously disrupt her classes and labs. Not to mention the few intelligent ones who are just plain lazy.:banghead:

Dave
 
I ccw'd everyday in college. B92FS in my backpack with a couple of spare mags and a .32 in the pocket. I wasn't really concerned with what the college's CCW policy was even though I already knew. I figured I would be about as concerned about it as the average criminal. Which is not at all.
 
They can't say anything

Any legal restriction on the lawful carrying of weapons by CWP holders has no logical justification. They have no argument what-so-ever for denying law-abiding, qualified, and licensed people from carrying at an adult education facility. Any argument I've read against carrying at such facilities is against concealed carrying in general, not specifically in regard to schools.

I'd be very interested in seeing what they try to come up with though. :barf:
 
First of, Kudos to South Carolina. I hope this passes with flying colors, and I hope it isn't just for school staff. They need a clause in there like Virginia tried to pass that would bar schools from adopting policies that would deny concealed carry rights.

But about that article: They need to do a little more research. Utah is not the only state that allowes concealed handguns on campus. There are several that do. There are even a few that allow them in the buildings like Utah. Pretty decent article, otherwise.
 
Accordiong to the local talk radio news report yesterday, it is doubtful it will pass this year due to the limited time left this year at the Capitol building. By next session, the sheep will have forgotten about the VT shooting.
 
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