Scariest movie you may ever see....

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Central Texas...

A synopsis? My computer is slower than molasses in February.
Biker
 
If Bush wanted to take over the country wouldn't it be easier to just fly the airliners into the Democrat National Convention rather than the WTC? :confused:
 
My internet connection is a piece of crap. Slow crap. Thus, I second Biker's notion for a synopsis/summary.
 
I think everyone should watch this- all the way through. I don't agree with everything in it- but there are obviously big gaps between the official story- and reality.
 
Don't waste your time. Junk. Pure junk. I got seven minutes into it and couldn't put up with any more of the conspiracy garbage. :barf:

Some people have way to much time on their hands (like the creators of this video), and have little or no understanding of how many and complex activities take place in a country this size every day, every week, etc., both in private, public, corporate, and government sectors. :rolleyes: Hence, too much time and an inflated ego which one thinks is smarter than others and which one thinks notices more than others notice is fertile breeding ground for this unimpressive type of paranoid conspiracy junk. Occam's razor will suffice for me, thank you very much.

Central Texas, if you think it is so important for us to know what is said in the video, please give us a written synposis so that we don't have to watch an hour and a half of nonsense. Starting out with seven full minutes of conspiracy theories like the creators of the video did doesn't keep your audience around long, even if there is better and more important information coming up later on in the video.
 
For those that deny the State Guard killed American college students at Kent State, That we never used Army troops, civilians or blacks for syphilis, nuclear, biological or other experiments, that Nixon, Kennedy, Clinton and Bush have never lied because well "they are/were the president", you won't get anything from this.
Telling you about a book or movie doesn't give the same experience so you will have to see it for yourself. I don't agree with some of it either, but what if only 10% is true?
CT
 
but what if only 10% is true?
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Awww, the old fling some crap on the wall and hope some of it sticks routine.

What if I knowingly said 100 lies about you, in hopes I could get people to believe that 10% of those lies are true?
 
This dude poses lots of questions without any definitive answers of his own. The film is filled with innuendo supreme, but not much science.
If this guys premise is true that it was all a conspiracy, regardless of who might have been president, there would have had to be massive use of the government and armed forces to make it all happen. Do you think for a single minute that all these folks would remain silent after seeing the loss of lives in which they took part? Someone’s conscience would have been bothering them by now that they would have come forward, I would hope.
Isn't is always interesting how some people are intelligent enough to single handedly find all the answers to a series of events after the fact, but they are not intelligent enough to see it all coming? Guess it was like the Psychic hotline going bankrupt....if they were so psychic, why did they not see their own demise coming???
 
"Isn't is always interesting how some people are intelligent enough to single handedly find all the answers to a series of events after the fact, but they are not intelligent enough to see it all coming? "

Like when the FAA investigates a plane crash and says "there was a wrench left in the engine" or "structural failure in a new design", they should have known mechanics make mistakes, not all designs are perfect and nothing is gained by investigating after the fact? Brilliant!
I love this sort of thing, shoot the messanger, refuse to acknowledge anything that differs from the governments account is "tin foil hat" material.
I'm not advocating anything other than you should watch it so you can make your ownconclusions.
CT
 
Actually, CT -- I think the the truth is obvious to those of us who've worked in government or spent much time in the military -- there is simply no way to keep a vast conspiracy a secret. Remember, two people can keep a secret -- if one of 'em's dead.
 
"Actually, CT -- I think the the truth is obvious to those of us who've worked in government or spent much time in the military -- there is simply no way to keep a vast conspiracy a secret. Remember, two people can keep a secret -- if one of 'em's dead."

Absolutely agree-as someone with military/Govt experience and prior security clearances. A vast conspiracy is hard to manage. One that is done in seemingly disconnected bit's is easier to manage. I have some serious issues with some of the theories such as where are the occupants on the plane that hit the Pentagon then? Etc.
I also think the "obvious truth" to those of us who have spent time in the military is that things happen & are covered up on occasion. Look at the Waco incident, the story continued to change and admissions were made, evidence covered up etc.To this large a level though? Unlikely but....

Let's look at Oklahoma City, I bought the official story until people started digging. Once I realized fed agents were told not to show up, first news reports quoting city/fire officials saying bombs had been found, still no release of 13+ security cams of the Ryder truck McVeigh drove "alone" despite repeated FOIA requests, well it gets easier to assume there is something shady going on, Besides questioning government is patriotic and makes them work harder to conceal what they are up to.:neener:
CT
 
I'm not advocating anything other than you should watch it so you can make your own conclusions.
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And we are only giving our opinion after viewing the film, thank you. Why are you so defensive of others' opinions that differ from the film? Was the compilation of clips for this 'film' partly your work?
Also, if there appeared to be a shred of logic to the film, if the film had any chance standing up to scientific scrutiny, the news media would have endorsed it hook, line, and sinker by now and it would have been shown in it's entirety on national TV. They will do anything to ding Bush.
 
CT,

Thank you for the link. Enlightening. Anyone who has a basic understanding of physics will be convinced the official version is one BIG FAT LIE.

Now I am convinced that:
1) the Pentagon, if hit at all, was not hit by a jet liner. A physical impossibility.
2) the three towers were demolished from inside
3) many people knew about it in advance, to different level of detail

Titanium and reinforced steel simply do not melt/evaporate/weaken at any temperatures consistent with the offician version. Sorry, but the laws of physics are not subject to partisan tweaking. I think some of the above posters should be ashamed of themselves.
 
"Why are you so defensive of others' opinions that differ from the film? Was the compilation of clips for this 'film' partly your work?"

I'm not, as I said I disagree with much of it. I just have an issue with folks that post 5 minutes after the 1Hr & 20 min film is linked saying it's garbage.
I'm pretty sure that most critics didn't watch the whole thing and so are speaking from a point of being uninformed about it. I posted it for it's different viewpoint, make up your own mind (but at least watch it first). I'm not going to spend anymore time "defending" it, I could care less. It's interesting and amusing and maybe has some truth , maybe not. I would like to see some links or discrediting (from a person in the know) of much of their scientific evidence and experts they brought out. Say for instance can a jumbo jet hit the lawn in front of the Pentagon on it's way in and not disturb giant reels of cable sitting in it's path? Or "vaporize" from heat leaving little plane but lot's of Pentagon?
CT
 
I should also say that I agree wth cosine, that conspiracy nuts propose this crap because it gives them a sense of superiority over the "common" man.
 
Telling you about a book or movie doesn't give the same experience so you will have to see it for yourself.
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Any time someone insists on not telling even the slightest premise of what the book/movie is about, it's usually not worthwhile. Seriously, you started this thread with NO info about it, no indication of whether it was long or short, fiction or nonfiction, political or scientific, etc. Zippo nyet nada.

We then learn that it's a conspiracy theory. I've followed a lot of conspiracy theories, and most of them amount to taking a small misunderstanding and constructing an elaborate demonzied explaination.

Occam's Razor rules. If something seems fishy, it's probably because you're ignorant - not because of a conspiracy.

No, I'm not going to watch a movie-length video when the the person insisting I do refuses to tell me why. I've learned that's usually a bad sign, and I've got better things to watch (like Harry Potter 3).

BTW: The "but what if 10% is true" line doesn't work. There are far more viable discussions of the worthy-of-concern truth than wading thru 1.5 hours of mud-slinging dreck. And what if 0% is true? what a waste of time THAT is then!

Go watch "Deliverance". THAT is the scariest movie I have ever seen.
 
Say for instance can a jumbo jet hit the lawn in front of the Pentagon on it's way in and not disturb giant reels of cable sitting in it's path? Or "vaporize" from heat leaving little plane but lot's of Pentagon?
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Brother. Here we go again.

I've reviewed a lot of the 9/11 Pentagon material & theories. Those slinging accusitorial questions about various "facts" are wilfully ignorant of what actually happened.

Giant reels of cable? it missed them. Really, it did.

"Vaporized"? Compared with a huge hardened concrete structure, the plane was little more than an aluminum-foil bag of air & fuel hitting a large rock. And YES, there was a lot of plane debris lying around afterwards.

I'll stop there. I've seen the 9/11 conspiracy theories. The're rubbish. Every point can be explained with a simple natural explaination. The problem is that the conspiracy theorists, having little grasp of the real world, fling half-fact half-assed accusations so fast & thick that you can't get a rational response in edgewise ... which perversely eggs them on, because the lack of sane explaination (regardless of having no time to review it) is pointed at as proof of conspiracy, and any sane explaination is either attacked with fervor, with either any perceivable hole instantly burdened with more conspiracies, or the sane explaination is ignored outright.

Conspiracy theorists have a very weak grasp of reality, and feed off each others' rumors. Pretty pathetic, really. If someone doesn't want to be convinced of mundane reality, it's amazing how much effort they'll put into concocting elaborate mental tarpits.
 
1) the Pentagon, if hit at all, was not hit by a jet liner. A physical impossibility.
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Yeah! All of those people driving to work that morning who reported they saw the airliner fly over them towards the Pentagon are part of the conspiracy! Don't believe them!

2) the three towers were demolished from inside
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Riiiight. That's why the structural failures can be seen occurring in the various footage where the airliners had plowed into each of the towers. The conspirators were so good that they were able to prepare the towers and set up their explosives without any of the thousands of occupants noticing, and they put them exactly where the planes were to impact in the weeks/months ahead on 9/11. And somehow none of the wiring or explosives were destroyed or disturbed by the freakin' huge disintegrating jet and fireball that ripped through several stories, nor the huge fire that erupted after that. Man, they're damn good.
 
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