Scary .22lr revolver

[MatthewVanitas]

snort...

I think that violates SOME law out there. Has to. Its gotta...nope...can't find it. Lemme know when you are goin shootin' with this load, 617. I wanna watch...from a distance!

Actually, I do believe I once saw a cartridge for the 40mm M79, which took around 15-some .22LR shells and discharged them simultaneously. Then could be unloaded with a cleaning rod segment and reloaded.

Of course, the 40mm M79 is a DD in the first place, not sure if the cartridge-body had any specific status of its own. Kind of like the "volley gun" concept, though if I understand correctly, a volley gun would technically be a machinegun.


@mjb: IRT .22Mag revolvers: granted I'm not experienced with the .22Mag, but is it really a good idea defensively? Most of the negatives of the .22LR (small bore, rimfire primer), a little more momentum, and costs way more than LR thus less practice.


@Ryan: forgive all the meanderings, folks are pretty sociable here. Regardless, the main points have been made:

a) Intimidation should not really be a factor, you're either shooting to stop a deadly attack or you're not.

b) A .22LR can be called into service as a defensive weapon, and isn't a terrible one, but a .38 or .357 would make a much better defensive weapon. It just all depends whether this is a 85%range/15%defense gun, or a 50%range/50%defense gun. The 617 is severely cool though, and the Ruger Single Six (single-action, cock-for-each-shot cowboy-type revolver) is competitively priced and will last for a century. Save your pennies for a decent .22 though, don't cheap out and get a Pathfinder or Heritage unless this is just a short-term purchase. Even then, resale value is way better on a brand-name revo.

-MV

 

[22-rimfire]

MJB, I like that!..

"I have the best of both worlds---
Colt Trooper Mk III .22LR 4 inch barrel
Colt Trooper Mk III .357 Magnum 4 inch barrel"
Add: Colt Trooper Mark III 22WMR 4 inch barrel​

Now you have the set!

As has been said, I would not DEPEND on any gun for its intimidation factor. Guns are intended to shoot. Point one at a Bad Guy and you had better be ready to shoot. If it is the right bad guy, he'll take it off you if you aren't able to shoot and use it on you.

 

[seeker_two]

If you have to settle for a .22, then I'd get a Single-Six w/ both .22lr & .22mag cylinders. Use the lr's for plinking and the mags for defensive situations (and practice slip-shooting a lot)...

Better would be to get a .22lr and a .38/.357 of the same type (K-frame revolvers) or a .22lr and a 12ga shotgun....

Your life is worth more than the stopping power of a .22lr....

 

[Vern Humphrey]

I'll have to agree with most on this thread. If your intention is self defense, go with a .38 Special or .357 Magnum (preferably the latter.) You can handload .38 Specials cheaply (and of course you can shoot them in a .357.) My favorite load is a 148 grain wadcutter (preferrably a swaged hollowbase) and 2.7 grains of Bullseye. In my .38s and .357s, that's a mild and accurate load. For hunting, I've killed a lot of squirrels with this load in my Colt M357.

If your intention is something else -- recreation, hunting, and so on, then get a good .22 revolver. My personal favorite is my Colt Officer's Model Target (made in the 1930s) but Smith and Wesson and Ruger make some fine .22s if you're looking for a new gun.

 

[Taurus 617 CCW]

You want a scary looking revolver, try one of these... It's chambered in .50 bmg. If the impact doesn't do the job, the noise will.

 

[SixForSure]

Anyonme who relies on intimidation is looking to get himself killed....idealy, the bad guy would never see the gun that shot him..waving a big mean looking gun around gives the bad gun more justification in shooting you than it does in scaring him off (after all..he broke into your house...how do you figure he's going to be unaware of the possibility of a homwonwer reacting to that?).

Lets put it this way...if i was undecided what to do, and you waved a gun at me, I'd certainly shoot you dead in a heartbeat.

+1

 

[ezypikns]

For treeprof

I thought I was a fairly literate person, but I had never heard the word 'stochastic' before.

Stochastic is synonymous with "random." The word is of Greek origin and means "pertaining to chance" (Parzen 1962, p. 7). It is used to indicate that a particular subject is seen from point of view of randomness. Stochastic is often used as counterpart of the word "deterministic," which means that random phenomena are not involved. Therefore, stochastic models are based on random trials, while deterministic models always produce the same output for a given starting condition.

Thanks

 

[Onmilo]

I own and carry a Smith 317 on my property fairly regular.
I have never had to intimidate a human trespasser with it but I have had to use the gun to kill raccoons, skunk, pigeons, and a couple of snakes that got into outbuildings and wouldn't leave.
I don't know if any of the critters were intimidated by the pistol but they all died quick and without a lot of argument.

 

[kjeff50cal]

My 2c is in my time as a grocer stocker/security (small store ) who had the drop on but never shot a would be robber/mayhem maker (we used to nickname the store Dodge City ) pistols DONOT intimedate hardened thugs.

They have the mind set of (deathwish maybe???) "so shoot me they have a very good chance of a) not getting hit in a vital organ and continuing their mission; b) a chance of disarming the holder of said pistol and have an added bonus; c) Getting shot and make out like a bandit in lawsuits aimed at the shooter or the store (deep pockets) that hired the shooter."

The only weapon that did get respect is a short barreled shotgun (it did not even have to be pointed at them). The odds of surviving a 12ga (or 20ga) blast it seems was not in their favor.

kjeff50cal

 

[Redbeard55]

Intimidating Revolvers

The business end of a 44 Magnum is impressive. Even more so a 45 Long Colt or 45 ACP. My Super Redhawk in 480 Ruger is intimidating. Sorry, but a 22 revolver will never be intimidating.

 

[TimboKhan]

Well, it seems to me that we have a new shooter who is getting inundated with suggestions from guys that are not necessarily taking a lack of knowledge into perspective. We have all seen the statistic that says that in X percentage of instances, the mere presence of a gun was enough to scare off the bad guys, and I suspect that is what he is going for in this case. Here it is: ANY gun looks intimidating when you look down the barrel, regardless of caliber but not EVERY gun is suitable for self defense. If your goal is to go shoot, buy the revolver that you like to shoot without giving consideration to its badassedness. You sound as if your not thrilled about maybe having to shoot to defend, which is reasonable; none of us want to have to kill somebody. However, if your buying a gun with the idea that your gonna use it for defense, you HAVE to understand, from the second that you decide to buy it, that you may have to use it to shoot someone. If your real desire is just to try and frighten someone off, a realistic toy gun will scare people off (and possibly get you killed as well) and is alot cheaper than a real gun.