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http://www.wral.com/with-high-tech-guns-users-could-disable-remotely/12469034/

This is just wrong on sooo many levels. That fact that it would provide data on where it has been? The idea that it could be "disabled remotely", do they not see how that could be abused by criminals, or in keeping with the 2nd amendment, the Government?

I know this stuff is probably never going to happen, but with so many people ill-informed in this country, and the fact that several states according to the article are toying with smart gun legislation, how long before people start to see this as a "reasonable" option to "protect the children!"
 
blakeci said:
http://www.wral.com/with-high-tech-guns-users-could-disable-remotely/12469034/

This is just wrong on sooo many levels. That fact that it would provide data on where it has been? The idea that it could be "disabled remotely", do they not see how that could be abused by criminals,
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I'm sure that there is a lot that they don't see and/or don't care about--they just want to make a buck off of the modern public's naive fear of guns and their slavish hunger for any kind of "high" technology.

blakeci said:
or in keeping with the 2nd amendment, the Government?
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Isn't the purpose of government to protect us? :scrutiny::uhoh:;)

blakeci said:
I know this stuff is probably never going to happen, but with so many people ill-informed in this country, and the fact that several states according to the article are toying with smart gun legislation, how long before people start to see this as a "reasonable" option to "protect the children!"
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They probably already do, especially after seeing that stupid James Bond movie that recently came out. :rolleyes:
 
My cell phone still can't send and receive text messages with any sort of reliability..... I'm sure as hell not goin to rely on it for the function of my sidearm.
 
Ooh my... A firearm is a mechanical device. no way would I trust anything electronic on the internals of my firearm. batteries, circuits etc etc fail all the time. Id never carry a gun that could be "remotely disabled. never ever. Reminds me of a time I had engaged the hammer lock on my taurus snubby and carried it for two days before I found out the lock was still on. needless to say I unlocked it and promptly hid the key deep in the back of the pantry so i'll quit fooling around with "safety" features.
 
Smart guns are worthless crap. Just fillet the sucker, rip out the electronic components and put in a couple of wires and direct switch. The first models to sell will probably take a 12-year-old 30 minutes to figure out. After that you'll be able to find instructions on the web and maybe even ready to go modification kits.

See my signature. :neener:
 
I believe NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam hit the nail on the head when he said:

"We believe that the technology does not exist today where a so-called smart gun can operate at 100% or close to it reliability, and a firearm that does not function when it is required is not a smart gun."

Pretty much says it all right there.
 
I posted this in the thread I started the other day on this subject:
Too scary - if this comes to pass, all it would take is for some government agency to require that they be able to do the same to your gun; or maybe those burglars could copy the code like they do now for opening garage doors
 
Following the Aussie newspapers off and on since the 1996-1997 turn-in of registered guns, I have noticed reports of (a) drug smugglers taking to smuggling handguns and (b) "bikies" (motorcyle clubs) operating basement or garage workshops making MAC-10 submachineguns.

Will they, and their USA brethern who are operating today whether we recognize it or not, incorporate "smart tech" in their products?

The US "Armed and Dangerous" survey of convicted gun-related felons revealed that 40% stole guns, 12% for their own use but others apparently for resale. Sources stolen from included manufacturers, shipments and police. Presumably a "smart tech" that could be defeated by hackers or by EMP would not be found in weapons intended for military or police.

Currently there are estimated 300 million civilian guns in the USA, none with them smart tech. Worldwide there are supposed to be another 300 million civilian owned guns. Officially, a number that is meaningless. A group that published a small arms survey claims there are only 3million registered guns in Mexico; private security consultant Georgina Sanchez estimates unregistered civilian ownership in Mexico at 12+ million military guns and 40 million sporting guns.

"Smart guns" might be useful in jails or prisons, where an armourer would maintain them, and you would not want a usable gun snatched by a prisoner from a guard's holster. But stuck on the mountain with a broken axle, I would want a low tech high reliablity weapon with me kept as simple and sweet as possible.
 
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Safety Really??

If this was indeed about safety, then this technology should be applied to cell phones, not firearms. Especially seeing how many accidents are caused by people who drive and text, call, even having accidents while walking and using a cell phone. If the cell phone is moving it won't work type of technology! Clearly another attempt to falsely inform a dis-informed public, who will believe anything the government tells them, just to step on human rights guaranteed by our constitution!
 
All of my guns are very dumb, and I propose to keep them that way. :evil:

All this proposal will do is make "dumb-guns" very popular, and of course more expensive. In my view liberal legislators who come up with this stuff aren't smart enough to chew gun and tie their shoes at the same time.

As for tecnology, consider their absolute panic when someone came up with a one-shot plastic pistol using a 3-D printer.
 
Oneounceload, it won't even get that far. There is no need for a high tech hacker, just a screw driver, battery and wires. See my signature. Only the newer generations which are not able to see a simple mechanical solutions for their dependence on technology will suffer being slaves to "smart guns".
 
Who will accept liability if a gun is needed in a life-or-death situation and it fails to operate as needed due to "smart tech"?

Plot line in a Batman movie: Joker obtains the code to the Gotham PD guns and cars and disarms and immobilizes the PD with a cell phone.
 
My first thought was "how long until DHS/CIA/NSA/ETC hack the computers and gain access to all the codes to shut down any (& all) guns equipped with this? About 12 seconds would be my guess.
 
Ideas? I doubt I could remember all of the old ideas bounced around for smart guns over the past 50 years.
How about the 'Gun' used by the DS (Sandmen) in the 'Logan's Run' books (original books, not the movie). They were 6-shot revolvers with a smart grip. If anyone except the owner touched the grip, their hand was blown off. Simple, effective, and silly....but few repeat offenders. ;)

We were told in the 1960s that smart guns were just a few years away.
We were told in the 1970s that smart guns were just a few years away.
We were told in the 1980s that smart guns were just a few years away.
We were told in the 1990s that smart guns were just a few years away.
We were told in the 2000s that smart guns were just a few years away.
And now in the 2010s...queue Adele music....."Skkkkkyyyyyyfaaaaaaalllll" :)
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Dont givE THEM ANY IDEAS!
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I say give them all the dumb ideas we can think of, because the dumber they look the more likely they will fail.

pockets said:
We were told in the 1960s that smart guns were just a few years away.
We were told in the 1970s that smart guns were just a few years away.
We were told in the 1980s that smart guns were just a few years away.
We were told in the 1990s that smart guns were just a few years away.
We were told in the 2000s that smart guns were just a few years away.
And now in the 2010s...queue Adele music....."Skkkkkyyyyyyfaaaaaaalllll" :)
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Then it's finally here! Like right now--in real life because movies never lie! :eek: And if it's good enough for Bond, then it must be good enough for ordinary citizens, right? But not good enough for police officers or the military, of course--they can still have whatever guns they want. :rolleyes:
 
I'll have it in my gun when the police have it in theirs.

What's the proper clearing drill when my gun picks up a Mexican radio station instead of firing?
 
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