School me on LEOSA please.
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Gee thanks Cane...
In one of my very first threads: "Sig Sauer as a duty pistol?" we went over how my user name may affect my motives for becoming an LEO in a series of private messages.
I understand that the name isn't exactly Politically Correct for someone trying to become an LEO. I wish I could change it but I can't. Have any ideas on changing the name?
What are you implying my motives are? Am I gonna shoot up a school just because I ask if I can carry on school grounds under LEOSA? It couldn't possibly be because I want to protect fellow class mates and teachers if an active shooter appears on campus.
Frankly I find your post offensive, your entirely in your rights to state what you think. I just find it very Un-Highroad to stereotype me based on my username.
Thank you for instilling my confidence in a fellow High Road member.
Kicker out.
In one of my very first threads: "Sig Sauer as a duty pistol?" we went over how my user name may affect my motives for becoming an LEO in a series of private messages.
I understand that the name isn't exactly Politically Correct for someone trying to become an LEO. I wish I could change it but I can't. Have any ideas on changing the name?
What are you implying my motives are? Am I gonna shoot up a school just because I ask if I can carry on school grounds under LEOSA? It couldn't possibly be because I want to protect fellow class mates and teachers if an active shooter appears on campus.
Frankly I find your post offensive, your entirely in your rights to state what you think. I just find it very Un-Highroad to stereotype me based on my username.
Thank you for instilling my confidence in a fellow High Road member.
Kicker out.
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Bobson
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"Kicker:"
While I think our friend, cane, might be unnecessarily jumping to conclusions, his post does bring up a point that I would encourage you to consider without getting defensive. Based on my firsthand experiences, I think you would do very well to take these types of things seriously, even if they seem insignificant. I don't know you or anything about you, but neither will a background investigator - except for what you tell him (and don't tell him).
Any municipal police department or county/state/federal LE agency you apply with will have background investigators who find things like your online screen names, even if you choose not to give them up when asked (I encourage you to provide absolutely everything requested). A name like "Kick-Doors-Down" might cause a highly-conservative, retired officer (as many investigators are) to put your application aside. It might not, but why take the risk?
Like I said, I don't know you, and I'm not suggesting you're some sort of crazed militant. These days, employment in LE is enormously competitive. Everything you do is going to be analyzed and picked apart - including everything you do, say, and post online. Don't make it harder on yourself than it's already going to be. When departments do start hiring regularly again, it's going to be even more selective, because over the last several years, extremely qualified applicants have been biding their time, holding employment in crummy places like prisons, waiting for their chance to grab their dream. Not to sound dramatic, but that's the fact of life right now for guys who would love to be LEOs.
I'm not sure what the policy is on changing your SN, but if you PM a moderator and explain the situation, they might let you change it. You've got nothing to lose, and possibly everything to gain, by making the effort to ask.
While I think our friend, cane, might be unnecessarily jumping to conclusions, his post does bring up a point that I would encourage you to consider without getting defensive. Based on my firsthand experiences, I think you would do very well to take these types of things seriously, even if they seem insignificant. I don't know you or anything about you, but neither will a background investigator - except for what you tell him (and don't tell him).
Any municipal police department or county/state/federal LE agency you apply with will have background investigators who find things like your online screen names, even if you choose not to give them up when asked (I encourage you to provide absolutely everything requested). A name like "Kick-Doors-Down" might cause a highly-conservative, retired officer (as many investigators are) to put your application aside. It might not, but why take the risk?
Like I said, I don't know you, and I'm not suggesting you're some sort of crazed militant. These days, employment in LE is enormously competitive. Everything you do is going to be analyzed and picked apart - including everything you do, say, and post online. Don't make it harder on yourself than it's already going to be. When departments do start hiring regularly again, it's going to be even more selective, because over the last several years, extremely qualified applicants have been biding their time, holding employment in crummy places like prisons, waiting for their chance to grab their dream. Not to sound dramatic, but that's the fact of life right now for guys who would love to be LEOs.
I'm not sure what the policy is on changing your SN, but if you PM a moderator and explain the situation, they might let you change it. You've got nothing to lose, and possibly everything to gain, by making the effort to ask.
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SMMAssociates
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cane:
An on-duty LEO can pretty much carry anywhere and anytime, open or concealed, although things like airport sterile areas may need some extra walla-walla.
Off-duty or retired, though, seems to limit your rights outside of your home state to those of licensees in that state. (No license possible, though, and you should be fine "everywhere".) I expect you'd be OK in your home state regardless. That falls under "who's going to make the arrest?" as long as you're not waving the thing around.
Off-duty or retired v.s. schools and Post Offices may be a problem. Again, the closer to home you are, the safer.
Here in OH, we had a prohibition against licensees carrying in restaurants that serve liquor. This included off-duty LEO's (as well as LEOSA). If you think about it, that was pretty silly, and it was removed from the law pretty quickly. (The rest of us got it changed in 2011.) However, I had more than one LEO tell me that he'd just tell us to "cover up" as long as he wasn't there on a "man with a gun" call in the first place, or we were waving it around.
I can't give a solid read on places where licenses don't exist at all, or are nearly impossible to get, but generally LEOSA allows off-duty and retired LEO's to carry within the laws set up for licensees.
Generally, Officer Friendly doesn't really have a handle on most of these laws anyway, so once he finds out you're "on the job", you should be home free in most situations.
Regards,
An on-duty LEO can pretty much carry anywhere and anytime, open or concealed, although things like airport sterile areas may need some extra walla-walla.
Off-duty or retired, though, seems to limit your rights outside of your home state to those of licensees in that state. (No license possible, though, and you should be fine "everywhere".) I expect you'd be OK in your home state regardless. That falls under "who's going to make the arrest?" as long as you're not waving the thing around.
Off-duty or retired v.s. schools and Post Offices may be a problem. Again, the closer to home you are, the safer.
Here in OH, we had a prohibition against licensees carrying in restaurants that serve liquor. This included off-duty LEO's (as well as LEOSA). If you think about it, that was pretty silly, and it was removed from the law pretty quickly. (The rest of us got it changed in 2011.) However, I had more than one LEO tell me that he'd just tell us to "cover up" as long as he wasn't there on a "man with a gun" call in the first place, or we were waving it around.
I can't give a solid read on places where licenses don't exist at all, or are nearly impossible to get, but generally LEOSA allows off-duty and retired LEO's to carry within the laws set up for licensees.
Generally, Officer Friendly doesn't really have a handle on most of these laws anyway, so once he finds out you're "on the job", you should be home free in most situations.
Regards,
Well Kick-Down Doors, your post seemed to indicate that you were more interested in the authorty to carry weapons, including "firearms that aren't legal in certain states" than the other aspects of being a LEO. As Bobson pointed out, internet postings can be brought up during background checks and employment interviews. Think about this question, so Mr. applicant, do you think all we do is "kick down doors, and carry illegial weapons off duty"? There's one question you are sure to be asked in an employment enterview, why do you want to be a LEO? Think about your answer.
I want to be an LEO because I feel that the job is fulfilling. I feel like the best way to help and contribute to mine and other communities I may reside in is to become an officer that uses common sense and discretion to better keep people safe. It'd be even better if I can show people that officers are not people to fear and demonize, but people that just want to keep others safe.
The police are the public and the public are the police.
Satisfied Cane?
The police are the public and the public are the police.
Satisfied Cane?
JRH6856
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It might be easier to show that if your SN was "Knock-On-Doors"
JRH6856
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It has to be done by an administrator. Send a PM to a moderator (anyone whose name is bolded and has Moderator after it.) They will tell you who to contact.
(Opening a second account is against the rules)
We sent you a response to your request 4 hours ago...but you never responded.
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