school to get firing range uk parents object

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Anger over school shooting range

Air and .22 calibre rifles will be used on the range
Plans to build a rifle range at a new £23m education academy in Bristol are at the centre of a row.
The Merchant Venturers is the main sponsor of the new academy, planned for the site of the old Withywood School.

It said the range would be part of a cadet force for out-of-hours activities, and would help discipline.

Dennis Burn, from the Venturers, said: "Parents and young people want an exciting programme of activity outside school hours."

He added: "The cadet force is well placed to do this. We will also be doing lots of other things.

The sport is being blamed for the ills of society. This is wrong

Geoff Doe
National Small-bore Rifle Association

"Being involved in such a rich programme of activities will help these young people to be the sort who do not get involved in gun crime."

The academy is scheduled to replace Withywood School, which had the city's worst GCSE results last year.

It will have more than 900 pupils when it opens in September.

But one parent, spoken to by the BBC near the school, said: "It would be teaching them to use firearms and encouraging them to go around shooting people."

Another added: "It's not a good idea. I don't trust them with guns, especially in this area."

The range is likely to use air and .22 calibre rifles.

Geoff Doe, from the National Small-bore Rifle Association, said there were 4,000 cadet units in the country, many of which were attached to schools including Eton.

"Films, TV and video games all glamorise shooting. By having a person properly introduced to it, taught and controlled, it demystifies the gun.


Work on the academy has begun

"The sport is being blamed for the ills of society. This is wrong. It is an Olympic sport."

He also pointed out the then sports minister Richard Caborn backed rifle shooting in schools in May 2007 and said this may have led to a increase in schools taking an interest in shooting.

The Reverend Dawnicia Palmer, from Mothers Against Weapons and Violence, told the BBC: "There are other things the kids could be good at.

"They should put their energies into something more responsible."
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<head in hands>


Guess I'm just glad we're not there yet.


....YET.
 
To all the UK users I'm sorry but a large percentage of the things your citizens say make them sound retarded. sorry if that isn't high road, if not please clean it for me.

totally unable to distinguish between an organized sporting event that teaches discipline calm and patience and handing out batches of MG 42s to all the second graders
 
The madness spreads...

Must be something in the beef.

But one parent, spoken to by the BBC near the school, said: "It would be teaching them to use firearms and encouraging them to go around shooting people."
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The Reverend Dawnicia Palmer, from Mothers Against Weapons and Violence, told the BBC: "There are other things the kids could be good at.
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Yeah, maybe they could learn to arrange flowers. Can't kill people with flower you know. Or can you? Hmmm....
 
"There are other things the kids could be good at.

"They should put their energies into something more responsible."
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They can practice the ole' putting the hands over the head motion instead...

That way, the can be really good at it when the next Hitler comes along.
 
"Films, TV and video games all glamorise shooting. By having a person properly introduced to it, taught and controlled, it demystifies the gun.
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Dead on. Need more of that here.
 
"There are other things the kids could be good at.

"They should put their energies into something more responsible."
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Ahhh, the nanny state.

Yes, let's make sure these kids don't learn and enjoy an activity outside!

That way, they can spend more time inside, becoming fat and lethargic, with unrealistic violence and gore in video games and television!

Note, I am not blaming television and video games (as I enjoy both) as they are inanimate objects as well. However, I am pointing out the irony that people think contact with a .22 or an air rifle will turn kids into killers, but seem to encourage exposure to activities that ACTUALLY may hurt the children (weight and inactivity are dangerous).
 
NG VI said:
To all the UK users I'm sorry but a large percentage of the things your citizens say make them sound retarded. sorry if that isn't high road, if not please clean it for me.

totally unable to distinguish between an organized sporting event that teaches discipline calm and patience and handing out batches of MG 42s to all the second graders.
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Oh, we Brits agree with you, believe me - however, the problem is larger than just the UK. How common is it for schools here in the USA have firing-ranges nowadays? Sad state of affairs when kids can't learn a shooting sport safely at school any more :(
 
Firing ranges were the norm at academies in England years back (pre-WWI), weren't they?
 
But one parent, spoken to by the BBC near the school, said: "It would be teaching them to use firearms and encouraging them to go around shooting people."
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So, does that mean sex ed encourages you to be a hooker? Does home ec encourage you to stab people?
 
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Good call andyC.
thanks for not taking it personally
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No problem at all, mate - it's highly frustrating to see the blissninnies in control over there to the extent that any pro-gun comments are deleted from the press, too, in my experience; so much for freedom of speech :rolleyes:

What alarms me is that I see the same attitudes creeping into the US - kids don't have access to shooting-ranges at schools any longer, the NRA's Eddie the Eagle safety-program is invisible, the loonie-lefties are the most vocal, etc.

I guess my point is that if we here in the US relax or complacently scoff at the dumb Brits, our kids won't thank us for ignoring what happened in the UK - because it will happen here if we allow it. "But dad, the signs were all there - why didn't you do anything about it?"
 
some of the idiots on the video clips are classic.
mothers against murder and aggression classic loonytunes
gangsters attend lots of smallbore target clubs :confused:
had grief taking kids for archery as it was aggresive:confused:
 
The Reverend Dawnicia Palmer, from Mothers Against Weapons and Violence, told the BBC: "There are other things the kids could be good at.
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Like soccer, maybe?

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I learned the basic safety rules when i was a child with a toy. My dad was a former US Marine, and even though he doesn't shoot much anymore, still taught me the basics. But it was the Boy Scouts who first introduced me to real guns, first BB guns and then .22's. This cadet program sounds like JROTC or the Boy Scouts or something in between.
Its a shame that people who are otherwise probably well educated have such a closed mind about something they probably know nothing about. Thank God I live in the US. we have anti's but at least we still have the RKBA
 
what makes it more outrageous is
the uk gun control network consists of less than 6 people :fire:
yet still they get quoted as representative
 
This is a good step they are taking at Bristol at least. While it is not going to reverse UK gun legislation anytime soon at least it will give firearms some exposure among students and hopefully spawn more shooting clubs and sports as a result.
Dennis Burn, from the Venturers, said: "Parents and young people want an exciting programme of activity outside school hours."
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Exactly. Kids that live in cities and urban areas get bored. Bored with the indoor culture; humdrum, little or no activity - and no genuine excitement. Learning about, to use, handling and shooting firearms is exciting to many kids and good clean fun activity, who are not necessarily thrilled at fighting over a ball in a grass field.

As for the whining, well; no surprizes there.

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"But one parent, spoken to by the BBC near the school, said: "It would be teaching them to use firearms and encouraging them to go around shooting people." "

And teaching them to drive an automobile will only encourage them to run people down. Or teaching them Cricket will encourage them to run around clubbing people with the bat. What a bunch of IDIOTS!

If they feel their kids are going to do that, then those kids need more responsible parents...
 
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Well, I shot archery at summer camp. But for some reason I did not go off on a bow and arrow shooting spree.
I've also had a slingshot, a BB gun, pellet gun, cap gun, water gun, and that funny gag snapping gum.
 
or we could applaud a school for wanting to teach kids responsible firearm use, and doing something about it.
 
Something like this really maybe the way to turn things around in the UK.

Its obvious, based on the average Joe's comments, that many if not most people in the UK have been convinced that guns are evil and shooting them then makes the shooter evil too somehow.

Giving young people a positive experience with firearms will help UK in the future by having people who know that firearms are not evil and are even quite enjoyable hobby.

Positive exposure could help turn things around over there.
 
I tried to find that poster on "Send a Gun to Britain" in my THR attachment file but I must have deleted it at some point --which means it's not in any of my THR posts any more.

Anyone else have it?
 
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