scope alignment on CZ Lux stocks
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I have two Americans and one Varmint (these are the standard straight style stocks, not the hogback Lux style stock). I also have 8 other CZs with the hogback style stock, some of those scoped and some with iron sights. If you are careful in scope and ring selection you can mount the scope low and the Objective will clear the barrel and/or the rear sight, and the Ocular will clear the bolt handle. With this sort of scope and mounting, the scoped hogback guns fit me just as well as the straight-style stocks. Here are a couple of the hogback guns that fit me just fine, along with a couple of the straight-style stocks. I'd just as soon shoot one style as the other, fit wise, the scope is mounted low on the hogback guns.
42-mm Objective on a 452 Lux
40-mm A/O on a 452 FS
40-mm A/O on a 452 American
44-mm Side Focus in CZ Medium rings on a 527 Varmint
42-mm Objective on a 452 Lux
40-mm A/O on a 452 FS
40-mm A/O on a 452 American
44-mm Side Focus in CZ Medium rings on a 527 Varmint
Jim Watson
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Our local CZ Buff gets into that. You have to have a suitable scope.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=752900&highlight=Scope
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=752900&highlight=Scope
MaineCoon;
One thing that can give people fits until they figure it out, is that the Americans have a 3/8" rail for the scope & the Lux will be 11mm. The troubles are then in the mounts rather than the stock. Just a foible that you should be aware of when dealing with the different models.
I6, is that a photo reversal or you've actually got a LH Lux? In any case, what rings/mounts are those please?
900F
One thing that can give people fits until they figure it out, is that the Americans have a 3/8" rail for the scope & the Lux will be 11mm. The troubles are then in the mounts rather than the stock. Just a foible that you should be aware of when dealing with the different models.
I6, is that a photo reversal or you've actually got a LH Lux? In any case, what rings/mounts are those please?
900F
henschman
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If you're going to have both proper eye relief and cheek weld, you will have to use a comb riser. There really isn't any way around that.
henschman
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lol!
fotheringill
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I have a few CZ 452's
BKL High rings will clear any ocular issues you may have between the scope and the bolt knob. They will also clear an objective bell, the inside of which is 40mm. You will have more room for a larger diameter bell with a non tangent style rear sight but I know for sure that a 40mm lens and housing will clear the tangent rears without need for removal.
Another option is Burris Signature Rimfire rings in high. They will clear also. I prefer them because of the insert choices. They can be used (as well as the BKL's) on both 11mm and what CZ calls 3/8" WITHOUT adapters from rail to mount.
If you are worried about cheek weld, just take out you teeth and you can get a bit closer to the stock.
Cheek risers can be purchased at www.accu-riser.com
Just go through the site and pick the right RISER for your rifle, not cheek pad.
BKL High rings will clear any ocular issues you may have between the scope and the bolt knob. They will also clear an objective bell, the inside of which is 40mm. You will have more room for a larger diameter bell with a non tangent style rear sight but I know for sure that a 40mm lens and housing will clear the tangent rears without need for removal.
Another option is Burris Signature Rimfire rings in high. They will clear also. I prefer them because of the insert choices. They can be used (as well as the BKL's) on both 11mm and what CZ calls 3/8" WITHOUT adapters from rail to mount.
If you are worried about cheek weld, just take out you teeth and you can get a bit closer to the stock.
Cheek risers can be purchased at www.accu-riser.com
Just go through the site and pick the right RISER for your rifle, not cheek pad.
Only needed if you have a head like a flounder.
I have that LH Lux and a LH American. Those are Weaver 49053. They are technically for the 3/8" grooves, but they work great on the 11mm. I have some Talley and others, but I like these on the CZs because of the low height. I do lap them though (as I now do all rings).
mainecoon, it's simply not that big of a deal. If you want to mount a scope low on a hogback gun and have it fit well, it's doable. I have several guns that prove that. You need a scope with not-too-large an ocular (if you don't want to modify the bolt handle), and not-too-large an objective ring. And some low rings.
Here's a comparison at eye-relief distance where your cheek fits the stock, comparing a CZ hogback stock and a straight American stock. .120" isn't a big deal on guns like these.
Here's a comparison at eye-relief distance where your cheek fits the stock, comparing a CZ hogback stock and a straight American stock. .120" isn't a big deal on guns like these.
Danny Creasy
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Last week, I used Warne high tip-off rings (reversible jaws that handle either 3/8ths or 11mm grooves) to mount a massive BSA 36X44 Platinum (what can I say - it was on sale for like $60 from Midway a few years ago) on my beautiful CZ 452 FS.
Why? You may ask. A good question, as I actually prefer shooting the rifle with the splendid open tangent sights. Well, I recently got tired of nursing the 3 lbs 7 ozs factory trigger and decided to use one of the springs from an old Brooks CZ 452 Trigger Kit to get some relief. Interestingly enough, the common CZ creep was not an issue. This one has a clean pull - just heavy - even with the tension nut bottomed out. With the #4 spring installed, it now releases at a comfortable 2 lbs 6 ozs.
I keep that big scope in the Warne rings around specifically for swapping around on 11mm dovetailed CZs when accuracy testing. It did so well with the big optic on Friday morning - I decided to shoot the rifle in my club's USBR match (yesterday - a beautiful Saturday morning). However, the Sporter Class rules prohibit actually replacing any factory parts. So, I said to myself, "What the heck? Just shoot it in Unlimited Class against the big target and bench rifles." So, I did. Here is my set up (that is a pic from Friday's outing - Ruger Blackhawks on the bench would be frowned on at a match).
Can you believe it? We placed second with this target fired at a distance of 50 yards using SK Standard Plus ammunition (score = 221-1X).
I must point out that a couple of the top shooters were not in attendance and most of the others were having bad hair days with their 12+ pound rifles.
Besides just shameless bragging and more relative to this thread, the BSA scope is so long that it just rides over the rear sight in the high rings, and the "chin weld" was comfortable enough to allow precise shooting from the bench.
So, mainecoon, let your ultimate usage of the rifle be your guide.
Why? You may ask. A good question, as I actually prefer shooting the rifle with the splendid open tangent sights. Well, I recently got tired of nursing the 3 lbs 7 ozs factory trigger and decided to use one of the springs from an old Brooks CZ 452 Trigger Kit to get some relief. Interestingly enough, the common CZ creep was not an issue. This one has a clean pull - just heavy - even with the tension nut bottomed out. With the #4 spring installed, it now releases at a comfortable 2 lbs 6 ozs.
I keep that big scope in the Warne rings around specifically for swapping around on 11mm dovetailed CZs when accuracy testing. It did so well with the big optic on Friday morning - I decided to shoot the rifle in my club's USBR match (yesterday - a beautiful Saturday morning). However, the Sporter Class rules prohibit actually replacing any factory parts. So, I said to myself, "What the heck? Just shoot it in Unlimited Class against the big target and bench rifles." So, I did. Here is my set up (that is a pic from Friday's outing - Ruger Blackhawks on the bench would be frowned on at a match
).
Can you believe it? We placed second with this target fired at a distance of 50 yards using SK Standard Plus ammunition (score = 221-1X).
I must point out that a couple of the top shooters were not in attendance and most of the others were having bad hair days with their 12+ pound rifles.
Besides just shameless bragging
and more relative to this thread, the BSA scope is so long that it just rides over the rear sight in the high rings, and the "chin weld" was comfortable enough to allow precise shooting from the bench. So, mainecoon, let your ultimate usage of the rifle be your guide.
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