Scoping a M14 clone (Norinco)

[Dontkillbill]

Chinese rifle, Chinese scope and american mount. 2/3 aint bad

So I descided that I wanted a 300 yard rifle and I'm too cheap to buy a nice Remington 700 with a good scope.

I took my Norinco M305 (m14 Clone and installed a rail and a cheap Chinese scope on an inexpensive Chinese rifle. Yeah Yeah I heard it 100 times Norincos are cheap copies. Infact they are not cheap copies but that's an arguement for another post.

Here's my progress so far. I took it to the range to find that I suck at installing things and started over. (I installed the mount 1.5 years ago and it worked well with a reddot. Anyway it was way out of level and lots of bad words and 40 rounds of reloaded 308 later.... I started over and did this video.

http://youtu.be/ZRZzkp_jH4M

 

[henschman]

300 yard rifle? I think you're selling your M-14 short there!

 

[TexasPatriot.308]

I love my Springfield Armory M1As, both walnut stocked, hate the cheek piece needed for optics, I left them both open sighted and at my old age of 59, I can still deal hogs misery at 300 yards with irons. there are plenty reasons the troops mainly in Afghanistan have brought the M14s out of the armorys and prefer them to the puny 5.56....we learned that 40 years ago, unfortunately the gun lobbys made sure we got stuck with a puny round. the .308 is a proven long range sledge hammer.

 

[WardenWolf]

I'm interested to see how it shoots.

Texas, the real issue is that Afghanistan has a lot of wide-open terrain. Modern combat rifles were designed after realizing that the vast majority of combat in World War 2 took place at relatively short range. Truth be told, the 5.56 cartridge is perfectly suited for 99% of modern battlefields; Afghanistan is a very rare exception due to how sparsely populated and poorly-developed it is.

 

[Dontkillbill]

300 yards is based on the user but I may get a chance to to take it to 600 yards. I'm not a great shot but I'm hoping to put holes in paper atleast this year. Next year I'll pick up a bolt gun. Right know I shoot 147 grain bullets with 43.5 grains of 335. I'll likely track down some 168 grain bullets. Any load suggestions?

 

[stubbicatt]

300 yards is based on the user but I may get a chance to to take it to 600 yards. I'm not a great shot but I'm hoping to put holes in paper atleast this year. Next year I'll pick up a bolt gun. Right know I shoot 147 grain bullets with 43.5 grains of 335. I'll likely track down some 168 grain bullets. Any load suggestions?

Oh man! Aren't you the guy with the SKS video? I really enjoyed that.

The 168 grain Sierra was designed to be a 300 meter ISU bullet. You can get pretty decent accuracy from it. The old standard loading was 41 to 41.5 grains of IMR 4895 in .mil cases, standard large rifle primers. It isn't a barn burner, far from it... but it is quite accurate. One could substitute CCI military primers, which are more resistant to floating firing pin type slam fire. IMO, avoid Fed 210M primers in this rifle, they have a relatively soft primer cup. Discard your brass at 4 reloadings, and HAVE FUN!

 

[Dontkillbill]

Thanks for the tips. I'm off to get some powder and if they have any 168 grain bullets I might splurge. I got decent results at 200 yards but the cheap scope will have to go eventually. Apparently a new op rod guide helps and a few other tweeks I might do over the summer.