The skinny on Chinese M14s

[rogertc1]

Buds only has a Springfield Armory 10 + 1 308 Win.National Match w//Green Co for 1560.00 in stock now on line. Everything else is either out of stock or an old listings. M1A1's are hard to come by. ( Springfield Garands NA for years yet Buds still has them out of stock on their listing.).)

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/36_41

heres their web site
http://www.springfield-armory.com/armory.php?clicktype=rifles

 

[Al LaVodka]

Chi-Com. Ah so. Confucious say: He who go to bed itching for a new butt in the rifle-rack wake up with stinky trigger-finger.
Al

 

[D Boone]

For the money it sounds high. I have a Norinco, but its a solid gun and shoots better than I do. I have attempted a cheap scope mount. I've been converted to one of those guys who will now say don't bother with a cheap mount. Having said that, I refuse to shell out $200 for a good one, so I think it will just have to keep the irons. If you can get him down to something reasonable like 750 I would say go for it.

 

[Kor]

The odd thing was that the guns made entirely different sounds when fired. The Norinco made somewhat of a pinging sound when fired, something the Springfield did not do.

IIRC Fred of www.fredsm14stocks.com and the Appleseed Project claims that forged receiver guns like the original GI-spec M14, and the Chinese clone guns, will "ring" when fired, while cast receiver guns like Springfields will not. Supposedly this is a sign of the receiver's quality.

 

[jpwilly]

chi-com. Ah so. Confucious say: He who go to bed itching for a new butt in the rifle-rack wake up with stinky trigger-finger.

rotflmfao

 

[Maverick223]

IIRC Fred of www.fredsm14stocks.com [link removed] and the Appleseed Project claims that forged receiver guns like the original GI-spec M14, and the Chinese clone guns, will "ring" when fired, while cast receiver guns like Springfields will not. Supposedly this is a sign of the receiver's quality.

That is interesting, and explains the ringing sound from my M1 Carbine. It makes perfect sense because good solid concrete will exhibit a ringing "ping" sound, while poor quality concrete will have a hollow "thud" sound (which can also indicate the presence of voids).

 

[MTMilitiaman]

I already have a Springfield M1A Loaded. It is a fine rifle, cast receiver or not, and I have been very pleased with it. However, I was aware that the Chinese rifles had forged receivers and my intent was to buy the rifle if it stood a fair chance of being decent. As a SEI Mk 14 build such as H20s is my dream gun, I was going to use the more mil-spec Chinese forged receiver for the conversion. I am not looking for a NM rifle here. Just something safe and entertaining enough to get me buy until I can save to pretty much everything on the rifle except the receiver replaced by SEI. If it sounds a little expensive, maybe I'll pass. I just saw an "in" on possibly starting a project.

 

[Winston_Smith]

MTM, if you just want to keep the receiver, and are willing to spend 1K. I would buy a stripped LRB receiver then slowly collect the parts you want as time goes on. Once you have everything you could send it to SEI for assembly. You wont have rifle to shoot right away but you could be off to a great start on your dream rifle.

 

[MTMilitiaman]

If I was just going to buy the receiver, I'd have SEI build it off of one of their receivers.

 

[thegoodlistener]

There is a Polytech in the trading post for $850.

 

[FenderTK421]

Polytech M14 in my local listing for $675.. C'mon tax return!

 

[SharpsDressedMan]

I had one, but my gunsmith gauged the chamber in the issue barrel, and it weas almost at the outer limits of headspace. Any more wear or stretch would put it in the "no"go". This meant possibly swapping in as USGI bolt and a new barrel, and the receiver was not "thread timed", so a GI barrel may or may not have worked. I decided against the extra expense at the time. Yes the receiver is forged and solid, but depending on what you pay, and what you plan to spend to upgrade it if necessary, I'd be cautious.

 

[Shear_stress]

I had one, but my gunsmith gauged the chamber in the issue barrel, and it weas almost at the outer limits of headspace.

Did he use a .308 or 7.62x51 gauge? The latter allows for longer headspace and confusion between the two has led many folks to believe that their rifles were out of spec.

 

[Cosmik de Bris]

The last batches of Norinco M14s are fine rifles, quite a few use them for service rifle here. We get various versions, camo 16", synthetic stock models etc. The prices range from US$400 - US$600 depending on the model.