Scott Shotgun- Need Help

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ozzyrules

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My father recently gave me this old shotgun and i was wandering if i could get some help identifying it. It is definately an 8 guage double barrel shotgun. This thing is extremly beefy and heavy. Blue barrel and what looks like a walnut stock. The sides are engraved with waterfowl and the only markings I can find are "Scott"( this thing is a little tarnished but still looks functional).
Anyhow, i certainly won't be firing it because i doubt i have a shoulder or a purpose for it. Any help is highly apreciated.

Thanks!
 
ozzyrules:
I find 3 companies named Scott:

1. Richard & William Scott, made dbl bbls in Albany N.Y. from 1848 - 1882 and were listed as quality builders.

I am attaching one to this message and another in a 2nd message

JM
 

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Besides those, there were some cheap Belgian doubles made and marked Scott, designed to hook in those who knew Scotts were good shotguns but not much more.

In 8 gauge, this is much more likely to be from one of the class makers. And 8 gauges were pure and simple waterfowlers.These were used in places like Barnegat Bay, Chesapeake Bay, the Outer Banks and so on to reach way out and bring to bag huge numbers of large fowl, swans, cranes, geese etc.

At a time when a buck's hide was indeed worth a buck, swans sold in New York for $2. Canvasback ducks went for two for a quarter. When a farm laborer made a dollar a day for a 12 hour day of back breaking labor, market hunting looked pretty good.

More 8 gauges were used by market hunters than casual sportsmen. Market hunting was an honorable profession then, and many fine folks harvested a bounty they could see no end to. And while it was a hard life full of toil, bad weather and a hint of danger, many loved it. I was privileged as a boy to know a few of the last. They were old men of wonderful stories and abilities, who could pull in geese from off the horizon like they were on a string.

When Federal legislation outlawed shotguns larger than 10 gauge for waterfowl, the 8 gauge was extinct in many folk's eyes. Some were sleeved down to 10 gauge, more were just hung on walls and admired.

There's an old Elsie 8 or 10 gauge in the family someplace, owned by a couple ancestors and now a cousin that appreciates it highly. I'd like to get it for a month, check it out, load some ammo specially for it, and wait, hunkered down in a grass blind, while geese rode the wind down to meet me, the next link in the food chain.

Back to practical matters. While 8 gauge ammo is scarce, components and hulls can be obtained from Ballistic Specialties, among others.

Or course, all old shotguns should be inspected by a qualified gunsmith BEFORE use. Any use.

While borderline expensive,companies like Briley may make a set of tubes that will turn your 8 gauge into a working, though heavy, 10 or 12.

Meanwhile, raise it to your shoulder, swing it along an imaginary flight line or two, and think about your ancestors using this. This hunk of crafted wood and metal may have had more to do with your making and shaping than our minds can conceive...
 
Need some help

I have a J.N Scott double barrel 12 gauge shotgun that has been in our family for years now I know its a JN Scott because it has his name on both sides and ST Louis beside that and there is some writing on the top rib right above the breach I cant make it out. Now I was wondering if anyone can tell me where and when it was made I am assumeing it was made in ST Louis. Does anyone have any idea when they were made? Or anything about JN Scott?

Thanks
 
I was privileged as a boy to know a few of the last. They were old men of wonderful stories and abilities, who could pull in geese from off the horizon like they were on a string.

Meanwhile, raise it to your shoulder, swing it along an imaginary flight line or two, and think about your ancestors using this. This hunk of crafted wood and metal may have had more to do with your making and shaping than our minds can conceive...

Why Mr McC, do I detect the hint of a romantic poet? Never the less, Well Said.

chas
 
The name Scott was used several times , The real Webley and Scott and also the American maker Richard Scott used both the full names and address on their firearms. Hopkins and Allen used the Scott names as well as an unknown U S Maker as trade named guns.
The name JN Scott was used also by Belgium gun makers on boat loads of inexpensive shotguns imported both before and after the great war to end all wars. You gave very little information on your shotgun, double barrel, single barrel, boxlock. dogleg hammers?? If it has outside hammers it was probably made between the 1880's and 1911. If it has internal hammers , it was made sometime in the 1920's to the late 1930s.This is about as close a dating as you are going to get because there are very little records kept on these old shotguns
 
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