Selling my .31 New Model and Mould

[Shilohdreamer]

**SOLD**Selling my .31 New Model and Mould

Hello Everyone. I am selling my Dixie New Model Pocket Remington Revolver with Brass Frame. It has a 2 piece grip of Walnut with a barrel at .31 calibur as well as a tapered octagon 1-30 twist. It was manufactured by Pietta of Italy and is available brand new at Dixie Gun Works for $215.00. I also have the .31 calibur brass mold that has a double cavity with round and conical mould. It is $39.95 brand new at Dixie Gun Works. I have not used the mould. As far as the gun, I only fired 2 caps through it. No lead has been in the gun. I also have a cap tool that I am including. I need to clear $145.20. Please send me a PM if interested.[/ATTACH]

 

[Jaymo]

PM sent.

 

[Shilohdreamer]

Sold! Thanks

 

[kBob]

Why is it that any time I take a couple of days off something like this comes up. Just what I have been looking for. Rats.

BTW there was nothing BP revolver wise at last weekends Orlando Central Florida Fairgrounds show. Wasted two hour drive both ways.

COrrection, there were no replica, there were some originals but I aint got that kind of cash. Saw a very nice original Root .28 SO much for Remington beating out Colt on the window frame/top strap. GOt to fondle a few pre ACW muskets so not a total loss.

-kBob

 

[scrat]

ya i know same here always miss it

 

[Jaymo]

Now, I need to find a holster for it. It should arrive tomorrow.
I really wanted the steel frame version, but I don't think battering of the brass frame is going to be an issue in a revolver shooting a 00 buck pellet with the small powder charges these take. Even with 777.

But, I've been wrong before.

 

[MCgunner]

My brass ASM .31 Remmy has held up well. I never down loaded it and have shot the conicals with full charge of 777, probably 30 shots or so at max. It only clocks 900 fps with that load. It's still tight. I prefer to shoot pyrodex with a 00, though, hits POA that way with my extended front post (made from a piece of braising rod). A full charge of pyrodex pushes a ball under 800 fps. It ain't real powerful and I figure the force of seating a 00 (really should use 0 buck) with the loading lever (flimsy) is harder on the frame than actually shooting it with a full charge of pyrodex. So, I don't bother with downloads and cornmeal and such with this brasser as I do with my .44 Navy.

Don't expect target accuracy with this gun. I get 8 or 9" 25 yard benched groups with mine, 7" at best. It ain't much of a 25 yard plinker. Need to keep the ranges short. I'll probably shoot mine a little more when i get myself a loading press that'll load .31. That little lever sure feels cheesy and I get concerned I might break it when I use it.

 

[Jaymo]

I can't figure out who it was made by.
The proof stamp is BT, which appears to indicate 2003 build date.
No maker name on it.
The left side of the barrel has a stamping of a circle with what looks like a palm (palmetto?) tree in it.
Or maybe it's a yucca plant?
Not sure.

 

[Prairie Dawg]

Yep, Palmetto.
Here's a link to an article with Italian Proof Marks:
http://www.dakotaskipper.net/ebay/MBPProofmarks1.pdf
--Dawg

 

[MCgunner]

BTW, I have the very same mold for mine. That sucker gets HOT with brass handles. I put some plastic tubing over the handles and still wear a heavy glove. The conical it tosses is real pointy, looks nasty, like it'd penetrate even at 700 fps, let alone 900. It weighs 60 grains, not a lot more than a round ball, but it sure looks nasty.

 

[Jaymo]

Thanks, Prairie Dawg. That's the one. Palmetto.

So, are Palmettos any good? What happened to them?

Currently, I'm doing some of the smoothing/finishing work that Palmetto didn't.

 

[Jaymo]

Ive been busy working on the little Rem, as time permits, to get it to reliably pop caps on the first strike.
Basically, doing what Palmetto should have done before it left the factory.
Also been working on getting the loading lever work more smoothly.
Needle files and stones.
Just need to clean the parts, reblue the loading lever, lube it all up, reassemble it, and test fire it again.

When it arrived, I had to drop the hammer on each cap twice, in order to get them to fire, regardless of whether they were 10s or 11s or how I seated them on the nipples.
What started as a simple job of removing mold flash from the spring slot to get the spring installed correctly, has morphed into a full deburring job.

 

[Prairie Dawg]

Palmetto became Euroarms.
They were making Remmies as late as last year.
Sold them thru Dixie & some other outlets.
I heard they were done, but never followed it up to be sure its true.

What yer finding with your gun is typical of Palmetto guns in my experience.
Final finish is not complete, leaving some for the new owner to do.

Not that that is necessarily bad--the Palmettos I've had were good shooters once a little finish work was done on them.

Remember that Italian nipples are frequently not great for reliable ignition.

--Dawg

 

[Jaymo]

The hammer spring felt weak. What I found, was that the mainspring groove in the grip frame was only allowing the spring to go 1/2 way in, due to excess brass flash in the groove.
I also think the barrel could use crowning and a forcing cone.
If I felt up to removing/reinstalling the barrel, I'd do it myself, in the lathe.

 

[arcticap]

Palmetto became Euroarms. They were making Remmies as late as last year.
Sold them thru Dixie & some other outlets.
I heard they were done, but never followed it up to be sure its true.

That's interesting if true.
bprevolver previously stated said that Palmetto was involved with swapping parts with ASM when they were both still in business. ASM did in fact make a pocket Remington which AFAIK Euroarms never did.
There were some Palmetto 1858 Remingtons being sold by the Possible Shop about 2-3 years ago, but I really thought that they were leftovers that were made before Palmetto went out of business.
Beside that one batch of Palmetto 1858 Remingtons, I don't recall hearing about any newly produced Palmetto guns for quite a few years, or hearing any news about them being bought out by Euroarms either.

Armi San Marco did some strange pieces back then. We have a 2nd Model Dragoon with the wedge entering from the right instead of left to right. This was sold by Replica Arms. After Armi San Marco was sold to American Western Arms, all production of percussion revolvers ceased. Shortly thereafter the son of the founder (deceased) of ASM resumed production of a limited number of percussion revolvers. One was a 3rd Model Dragoon with the wedge going right to left. At this time there was a working relationship with Palmetto in sharing parts. Now both companies are deceased.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=486773&highlight=western+arms

 

[Prairie Dawg]

Arcticap:
You may be right--I think I was confusing Palmetto with Armi San Paolo.
I just checked Dixie & they are still selling Palmetto derringers.
They have a brass-framed Remmie Kit & they don't say who makes it, but my guess is it might be palmetto.

I'll have to double-check my "facts".
--Dawg