Semi auto for ducks?

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I will be going duck hunting for the first time this fall, and I am thinking about getting a 12 gauge semi-automatic shotgun. Does anyone have any reccomendations? I've heard that the 11-87 is a good shotgun.

I like Remington products, but am open to any suggestions EXCEPT for Benelli. I don't like the feel of their shotguns.

Thanks- 45Guy
 
Remington makes good reasonably-priced semi auto shotguns. Beretta makes better ones.

For your use, I would recommend the Beretta 390 copy that Wal Mart sells for about $539. They have the synthetic stock and will shoot any 2 3/4" or 3" shells in the proper gauge. For durability, reliability, and performance, the 390 Beretta will beat the Remington.
 
I use a 11-87 Magnum on ducks. Its a great gun and I have no complaints. The magnum really doesnt make any difference, I never use anything that would really require the magnum.
 
If you already own or can borrow a shotgun try that first. Duck hunting can be a cold, wet, miserable hunt. Usually the poorer the conditions, the better the hunt. I've had the pleasure of introducing several folks to the sport over the last thirty - plus years. For a few it was the first and last time they ever hunted waterfowl. If you still want to persue the sport you can buy that automatic later. Spend your first few hundred dollars on clothes and waders of good quality to keep you dry and comfortable. I've used a Remington 870 for Duck hunting for a few years now and just recently purchased an 1187. I've not hunted with the 1187 yet but it is a lot softer on the shoulder than the 870 but then it costs almost twice as much. Good luck, I hope you enjoy your hunt. :)
 
Beretta AL-391. Everybody in my family has one. Its a great gun, can take a beating if it needs to, and is light. Really light. I paid 8xx for mine 6 years ago, pretty sure they have come down in price a little.
 
I use my one of my 1100 on ducks...

Just watch 2 guys shooting, one with an auto and one with a semi... you can tell right away which one you want to shoot.
 
All are good choices. Nothing really wrong with an 11-87, but I agree the Walmart Beretta is the best buy in an auto shotgun going. They are made in the USA by Beretta. I have an older, nearly identical Beretta made in Italy that has been great.
 
I use a variety of guns. :D

Remington 11-87 super magnum.
Remington 1100
Remington 20 gauge (pump, really old)
Browning Pump
and
Benelli SBE2

I recommend the 11-87. the super magnum is good cause it can shoot most 2 3/4 loads all the way to the heaviest 3 1/2 inch shells. Another good gun is the Beretta Xtrema 2. (Beretta and Benelli are owned by the same guys) and so all their shotguns are good. My dad dropped a duck from 100 yards :what::what: with his Benelli using 3 1/2 inch loads.
 
I used to shoot an 870, but I switched to an 1100 when I started doing a lot of hunting out of a floating blind and was repeatedly short shucking it.
I have an old 1100 (non-magnum) with the Remington 3" barrel with screw in chokes on it. It works. I have had to stop and get the ice crystals out of my eye when I pulled the trigger and the ice broke and flew, but the gun was ready to go. I especially enjoyed it when a buddy with an old Browning A-5 was single shotting because the ice wouldn't let the barrel recoil. Never heard any more about "Remington junk" from him anymore.
I clean my guns, that is to say I always wipe down the gas system, after a hunt. Other than too low powered a shell, or getting brush or something stuck in the action, none of my 1100s have ever failed to function.
I must admit I have never seen a Benelli fail either, but I don't like the feel of them, especially when you touch off a King Kong load.
I have seen every make of autoloader fail, and I think it's because the owner did not clean it. When you shoot a shell on a cold damp morning, the gas produces condensation when it hits the cold steel. This adds up to gunk. If you take care of them they pretty much all work.
 
I especially enjoyed it when a buddy with an old Browning A-5 was single shotting because the ice wouldn't let the barrel recoil. Never heard any more about "Remington junk" from him anymore.

How long did you guys argue over whether the DeSoto or the Studebaker would be the best car to take to your hunting spot?

What else did you bicker over? Adlai Stevenson vs. Dwight Eisenhower?
 
45guy - assuming you're talking only about new guns:

No way, no how would I buy an 11-87. The "Sportsman" is a rust-prone, heavy semiauto version of the 870 Express for too much money, and for the money they want for the other models, I'll take one of Beretta's offerings. Maybe a Brownchester. The 1100 revolutionized the market -- before I was born and I'm over 40. There are better guns now, and I say that as someone who has and likes an old 1100 Magnum. Remington has not kept up. I really liked the 105CTi I shot, but not for the price they want, and not at any price, with the quality problems I've seen in pictures here.

The 3901 would be a great "working gun" if you don't have to have camo, and it's cheap (by modern standards) for what it is. The Browning and Winchester twins change their model lineup as often as their underwear, and I don't pretend to keep up. But those who have them, seem to swear by 'em.
 
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I had just sold a Studebaker back then, but I don't remember what he drove. Ike was already out of office, and John Kennedy served to totally revolutionize my thinking on the political scene.
 
No way, no how would I buy an 11-87.

I have the 11-87 super magnum. :D and I like it more than my dad's benelli. I suggest going to a store and just taking the gun and lifting it up to your shoulder real quick and seeing if the sights set in right. I've lifted guns to where i was way right or way left, but with the 11-87 I'm always dead on.
 
If geese are in your future, you'll want a magnum. 3 1/2" loads carry enough T shot, otherwise heavy shot in 3" works great, but is expensive. Winchester Xpert Hi Velocity number 3 steel in 2 3/4" works fine for me on big ducks. Geese are tougher and require bigger shot and 3" or 3.5" has more of that bigger shot in the pattern than 2 3/4" does.

As to guns, any of the above are fine shotguns. I'm thinkin' about getting a 935 Mossberg, myself. For the money, the Remington Spartan 453 is a good, functional gun for waterfowl. Shoots 2 3/4 to 3 1/2" loads. The Spartan is gaining fans big time in the duck marshes. It's a heavy gun for all around use, but for waterfowling, that's a bonus to soak up that recoil. It might be a little slow on the swing, though, for those early morning teal buzzing in the first few minutes of shooting time.

I've been using a pump M500 mossberg on geese and ducks forever alternately with a Winchester M1400 auto on ducks and doves. I really ain't in a big huff for a new shotgun as the ones I have get the job done well, frankly. The camo finish on my Mossberg is desirable down here in the salt marshes and bays, very rust resistant. I took a tip from SM and started using paste wax on my blue/wood 1400 and it's holding up well enough and I'm impressed enough with this idea that I've started shooting it more on ducks. It's a sweetheart to shoot, very light on the shoulder with heavy loads. It's a gas operated semi-auto. And, it fit me perfectly right out of the box. I hunt geese maybe a couple times a year and the Mossberg does a great job with 3" hevi shot. If I hunted geese more, I'd want a 3.5" to shoot steel T, cheaper ammo and effective. I'm going to try Remington hevi steel this coming season, though. It's cheaper than hevi shot and supposed to be pretty good. We'll see.
 
I like the looks of that Stoeger. Going to go check it out tomorrow, but I'm still open to other suggestions.
 
The Berettas are at the top of the heap, but there's scads of happy 1100 and 11-87 owners out there.

Get the one that FEELS best, get it patterned and shoottheheckoutofit.....
 
Let me clarify...

I also like how Remingtons fit me, though the Cordoba fits me well also, along with several other common production shotguns. Never tried the SBE series, though.

I would certainly shoot an 11-87; I do shoot an old 1100 Magnum. I would buy a used one for a good price, and probably keep it forever. What I wouldn't do is pay the price for a new one, when the 3901 is sitting next to it for 700 bucks.

Which reminds me, I need to order a trigger shoe for the 1100. Damn Remington triggers cut my finger.
 
Dave, assuming it cycles birdshot, #8 size, decent, it will become my main trap gun so I become proficient with it. Maybe then I can let my 870 rest.

BTW, the reason I'm not using my 870 is mainly because it's 20 gauge, and also that we will be hunting from boats.
 
:confused:

John Kennedy served to totally revolutionize my thinking on the political scene.

Hmmm, I wonder which way. Bill Clinton did the same for me...:D...as in I would never vote for someone from that party again.
 
That he did:D

So this evening I went to the local Scheels and tried mounting, and generally fondling the Stoeger 2000, Remington 1187, and the Mossberg 920 (they didnt have a 930). I'll be darned if they all didn't mount perfectly! Tight to the shoulder with the bead perfectly aligned down the barrel. All were priced below $500, which is a big plus for me, and they had sling swivels. I liked the Stoeger and the Remington best, so now I've just got to toss those ones around in my head:eek:

It's a hard decision!
 
I don't worry about their taste in women, I just don't want any of their ilk screwing me again.
Kennedy came sooooo close to starting WWIII, and Clinton basically gave Bin Laden a bye to pull off nine eleven and the liberal media just brushes it right off.
We have 300 million people (numbers are just for illustration - I didn't check a thing). 47 million have no health insurance. Chills, horrors. Why? I suspect they can't afford it. So, how do we give it to them? Everybody else, who is already paying for their own health insurance, is going to also have to pay for theirs too. And then a lot of people who drive school busses or work as WalMart greeters just for the benefits, say well hell lets just kick back now, we can get government insurance.
It will probably take 23 and a half million new government employees to manage such a huge system, so at least we wont have to worry about the insurance for them, because as gov't employees they will now have better wages, vacations, sick leave, retirement, and health insurance than the rest of us.
I think I smell higher taxes.
Hospitals can not refuse treatment. So, the rest of us get stuck paying for the ones that do not pay, but I gotta believe anything is more efficient that the government getting involved.
Sorry for the rant, but my morphine wore off and woke me up.
 
Yeah, it's agravating to me too. We in middle class America seem to foot the bill for the rich and the poor. It aint a perfect system. It's only the best one in the world. "God Bless America"
 
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