Senate Bill Introduced to Close the Gun Show Loophole

[Samuel Adams]

This from the Brady Bunch website.

Senators Frank Lautenberg and Jack Reed introduced legislation [S. 2577] that would strengthen the Brady criminal background check system by closing the gun show loophole.

The Brady Law requires criminal background checks of gun buyers at licensed dealers, but there is a loophole at gun shows. Convicted felons, domestic violence abusers, and those who are dangerously mentally ill can walk into any gun show and buy weapons from unlicensed sellers without being stopped, no questions asked.

Several families of the Virginia Tech massacre and Brady Campaign President, Paul Helmke, joined the Senators on Capitol Hill and urged Congress to pass this important bill that would help keep dangerous weapons out of the hands of dangerous people.

http://www.bradycampaign.org/

 

[Threeband]

There is no "Gun Show Loophole".


The same laws apply at gun shows as at any other location within a given jurisdiction.

If someone seeks to buy a gun from a dealer at a gun show, that transaction will be subject to the exact same laws, regulations, background checks, paperwork, and waiting periods as if the sale were conducted at a regular store in the same jurisdiction.

What you are referring to are "face-to-face" sales, which can occur anywhere two private individuals agree to meet, just as if they were buying/selling a car or a used washing machine. While "face to face sales" may, depending on jurisdiction, occur at a gun show, they can just as well occur at an International House of Pancakes (which is where a friend of mine bought his motorcycle).

There is no "loophole". It's just the law.

Is your freedom of speech a "loophole"?

This canard of a "Gun Show Loophole" is a rhetorical Big Lie frequently repeated by enemies of our Constitution. Let's not use their twisted terminology.

There is no more a "Gun Show Loophole" then there is an "International House of Pancakes Loophole".

 

[walking arsenal]

What about personal sales?

 

[ConstitutionCowboy]

What, nothing about keeping the dangerous people locked up? Where is their sense of priority! Oh, yeah, it's to disarm us and make us ALL victims.

Sorry, I lost my head there for a second.

Woody

"Charge the Court, Congress, and the several state legislatures with what to do with all the violent criminals who cannot be trusted with arms. We law abiding citizens shouldn't be burdened with having to prove we are not one of the untrustworthy just because those in government don't want to stop crime by keeping violent criminals locked up." B.E. Wood

 

[rocinante]

Threeband I am going to memorize your response so I can use it verbatim. Well said.

 

[Samuel Adams]

There is no more a "Gun Show Loophole" then there is an "International House of Pancakes Loophole".

Speaking only from my experiences, this certainly makes sense.

 

[RealGun]

I believe the next logical step would be to ban private sales. Another one is requiring registration (on everything that shoots), so that only a dealer can handle the transaction and do the paperwork. The next census will then ask if you own firearms...and on it goes. The Trojan Horse is already in the building.

 

[Standing Wolf]

Is your freedom of speech a "loophole"?

Evidently it is, or we wouldn't have the McCain-Feingold Act to silence political speech.

 

[Big Boomer]

The Brady Law requires criminal background checks of gun buyers at licensed dealers, but there is a loophole. Convicted felons, domestic violence abusers, and those who are dangerously mentally ill can break into any home or business and steal weapons without being stopped, no questions asked, and more importantly no background check!

We must put a stop to this loophole!

 

[Conqueror]

The Bradys don't want background checks on private sales. They have hordes of very smart lawyers who know full well that the NICS system is CLOSED TO CIVILIANS. Even if you passed a law today requiring background checks on private sales, there would be no way to implement it since private sellers cannot legally call the NICS system to run a check on the buyer. Such a requirement would be the de facto end of private sales, and the Bradys are very well aware of that fact.

 

[tulsamal]

The Bradys don't want background checks on private sales. They have hordes of very smart lawyers who know full well that the NICS system is CLOSED TO CIVILIANS.

They wouldn't want Joe Civilian calling the NICS system to check on Joe Six Pack anyway. They would like to see a requirement that all private sales go through a gunshop. So I want to sell a pistol to my best friend. Both of us have to go to a gunstore and pay $xx for the dealer to fill out a 4473 with us and to call in the background check. If the guy passes, I can sell him the gun. And the dealer retains the 4473. Do that long enough, and you have a paper trail for every gun in the country. It's a way to get to de facto registration.

Gregg

 

[jpsimms]

agreed, no loophole

last time I bought an sks from a gun show I did the background check just like at any store