SF Police steps up

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Thanks for posting this. Please post the campaign headquarter's website of any Judge candidate running against the Judges who gave the defendant bail. I'm sure lots of folks here would like to make a donation.
-David
 
That guy is my new hero. Its about time that someone speaks out about the bias in the press.

Edit: Speaking out about the press in a non political way that is.
 
SAN FRANCISCO -- In a jammed-packed tense courtroom, two of the three men charged with the murder of a 39-year-old San Francisco police officer pleaded not guilty Friday.

San Francisco Superior Court Judge Carol Yaggy set bail for Steven Petrilli, 19, and Nicholas Smith, 21, at $10 million each after their not guilty pleas. The arraignment for Carl Lather, 21, was put off until Monday because he did not have an attorney present.

The court appearance came 24 hours after the head of San Francisco's police officers union Gary Delagnes could hardly contain his anger as he spoke to reporters. Petrilli, 19, has been charged with murder, manslaughter, evading police and robbery in connection with the death of Officer Nick-Tomasito Birco early Wednesday.

Delagnes said Petrilli should not have been even on the streets.

At the time of the crash according to court records, Petrilli was on probation for car theft, and out on bail on charges of burglary and having sex with an underage girl.

He was also charged but never convicted in two other police car chase incidents. Past charges also included drug and gun possession and auto theft. Police sources also say in the past he was connected with the Norteno gang.

"I'm going to find out who the judge was in every single case when Mr. Petrilli was in front of the courts as a suspect," Delagnes said. "I will find out why this piece of garbage was not incarcerated."

"If he was where he was supposed to be officer Birco would be alive," Delagnes continued. "The majority of the blame lies with the judges. Bail was issued on numerous occasions for this guy. Motions to revoke where issued by the DA's office and they would not remand this guy into custody."

Petrilli, Lather, 20; and Smith, 22 were also charged with manslaughter, evading police and robbery, according to the San Francisco District Attorney's office. Jessica Chamberlain, 20, who also was a passenger in the van, was arrested but not yet charged.

Police are still trying to determine why Birco, 39, joined in Wednesday's pursuit of the Dodge van without telling dispatchers.

At least two other cruisers were chasing the van on streets in the city's Portola district when it hit Birco's car, which spun around, hit a curb and landed on its side. The van slammed into a home and hit other parked cars.

The chase started after the suspects allegedly robbed and assaulted a man at a bus stop, according to police.

Birco's cruiser arrived at an intersection where the fleeing van ran a stop sign and crashed into it, but dispatch records showed Birco did not radio in to say he was taking part in the chase, according to investigators.

Birco had been on the force for five years and fellow officers at the Bayview station where Birco worked continue to mourn.

"So many were impacted so deeply we had them go home because we don't want them out on patrol when they are not thinking clearly," Capt. Al Pardini. "They could drive into the middle of a violent situation and get themselves injured. So many have taken that option."
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In a nutshell these punks killed a cop and the media is now questioning if the Officer should have persued the suspects in the first place so now SF Police Officers Association President Gary Delagnes Lashed Out At Judical System And Media. He is going to find out who the judges were that kept this guy on the streets and do everything he can to get them off the bench at the next elections.
 
Weren't all firearms banned from SF at the beginning of the year? Again the antis have failed.

Not in LEO but I have total respect for the job that these men and women do every day.
 
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It's apparent that the accused were fleeing in a van and that one of the pursuing cops was killed after losing control of his vehicle. The taped statement by the police union rep made reference to a newspaper article that took a "shot" at the dead cop, trying to blame him for his own death. Not having read the article in question, I can't say what he means, but I can guess. Police departments across the country, and in California especially, have been questioning (and restricting) policies governing high-speed chases. Too often they are performed inappropriately--to catch nonviolent criminals--and result in avoidable fatalities among suspects, police, or innocent bystanders. The newspaper article in question probably raised that issue, which pissed off the police spokesman. The original posting didn't include all the facts or both sides of the issue, so it's impossible to form an objective judgment.
That does not, of course, prevent an outpouring of outrage on this forum. I hope you guys are more careful about going around half-cocked with your firearms than you are with your opinions.
 
How is it half-cocked to say that the SF govt totally ignores the 2nd amendment? Did I miss something, have they suceeded from the union? Lefties never learn they just keep spewing the same garbage over and over again.
 
Did I miss something, or were no weapons used in this killing? Wasn't it the crash that killed the officer? The write-up indicates that he attemped to block to fleeing vehicle and they crashed him.
 
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It seems like the rights of the crooks have outweighed the rights of the victims....

How many seroius criminals are (out on bail, or whatever)roaming around our cities? A rhetorical but scarey question..:fire:
 
I think the point of this post was to point out the fact that the legal system in San Fran might have failed once again. Upon inspection of his background the Police officer's union head is wondering why this guy was on the streets anyway, because he had quite a few felony charges including statutory rape. He argues that if the judges had put him in jail where he belonged, then he wouldn't have been on the streets to cause the incident in the first place. I supose the end of this story is yet to play out.

I know this incident happened in San Fran China, but I don't see how this became a second ammendment discussion.
 
Right, the point was liberal judges allowing these predators loose on society rather than dropping the hammer on them at the very begininng and, as Barney Fife would say, "Nip it in the bud!!"
The fact the media tries to blame the officer is no suprise, sick, but no suprise.
 
I thought that the San Francisco handgun ban got appealed.
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While not terribly relevant to this thread, you are correct. Prop H (the handgun ban) was passed by voters, run through the courts, and the courts overturned the proposition. Handguns remain legal, to the same extent that they are elsewhere in California, in San Francisco.

Oh, and America_without_liberals, not all firearms were banned under the proposition. I have no doubt about the writer's ultimate intentions, but that hasn't happened quite yet. :)
 
I hope you guys are more careful about going around half-cocked with your firearms than you are with your opinions.
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<sarcasm>Oh, your right. It wasnt really the criminals fault, he must have been traumatized when he was young and therefour cant be held responsible for any of his actions. That thug cop on the other hand should have known what would happen. He should have never given chase to such a misunderstood person and should instead have sat down and offered the confused soul some loving support and a shoulder to cry upon. He then should have sat and wondered, "Why in the world do I have this evil weapon of destruction?!? There is a ban on all weapons here so there is no possibility that anyone would have a gun. I should go and destroy this as soon as possible."</sarcasm> :barf: :cuss: :fire:
 
This guy sums it up perfectly. It is amazing how little time in jail people spend for serious crimes. I am not a fan of warehousing criminals, or the revolving door prison system. But everytime someone comes in contact with the criminal justice system there is a chance for intervention to stop a future crime. When someone is killed, raped or robbed, chances are the perpetrator has been in and out of the system dozens of times.
This is why gun control doesn't work. If there were no guns at all, you would still have just as many criminals who would continue to kill, rape & rob.
 
It's a double-edged sword...if the police on the streets failed to make so many arrests for petty crimes such as possession (without intent to sell) of a few joints or other stupid victimless crimes, the system wouldn't be bogged down so much. Of course, they have an obligation to enforce the law and have no control over it, but so do the judges...and a judge can't just do whatever they like with a defendant, there are rules of law and procedures that need to be followed...I highly doubt there is a conspiracy of SF judges to intentionally put criminals back on the street.

The perp could have walked because the police or DA failed to do their job by gathering and/or presenting enough substantial evidence. What's a judge to do, say, "too bad the state did not meet their burden, but you're going to jail because I think you're scum"? Yeah, that's nice until it turns around and happens to the wrong person.

While the intentions of Delagnes are honorable, it's not like he wouldn't have known what a legal cesspool SF and Cali have been for a long, long time...where was his outrage before today? I still wish him well, but you know it's easy to find the soapbox when an issue affects you personally, easy and convenient. It's like those parents that lose their child to a horrible accident or disease and then want to start yet another foundation over the incident...where were you when someone else's child died yesterday?
 
SF cops are pretty cool

They will often overlook simple possesion, and lots of other things too.
SF judges really suck! They will railroad you if you get bought up on a gun charge.
They are all lefties and bureaucrats.
 
NineseveN, I agree that is part of the problem. But, the reason there are rules tying the judges hands is because so many judges were abusing their privilage in the first place. OF COURSE, the solution was to fix the problem and kick the damn liberal judges out, but society took the Lefts method of changing the laws to cover the problem instead of fixing it.
And in fact, it is that attitude which I see as the most troubling in our society. There are just too dang many laws! There are so many that no one, and I mean NO ONE can go through life without being a lawbreaker at some point. I just recently saw a news item where a fire inspector was talking about how he could site folks in an apartment complex who had a bar-b-que on their back porch. Not using the bar-b-q mind you, just storing it on their back porch (it had to be 10 feet from any overhang). Now if the apartment complex wanted to ban bar-b-qs, no problem that is within their rights, but the freaking goverment! IT IS NONE OF THEIR DANG BUSINESS IF SOMEONE WANTS A BAR-B-Q on their back porch. WE DO NOT NEED TO BE PROTECTED FROM OURSELFS!! It is insane. But the liberals call for more laws to fix the ones that already don't work (both Rep and Dems--it is how they buy votes).
I think the fastest way to fix this country is to make the legislature review and re-pass every stinking single law they pass every 10 years. That way, it comes down to a choice: spend all your time re-viewing and re=passing existing laws, or fix the ones we have and reduced the total number to something more manageable.
 
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