Shield Arms Glock 43X/48 Magazine Feedback?

[dogtown tom]

Well, if you read my earlier post, I don’t use the factory magazines.
I have found it strange, how just about everyone complained about Glock only putting out 10 round mags for the 43X and 48. But now that there’s 15 round magazines out there, people are complaining about not being able to use the 10 round mags, with the metal mag release.

Its because I want to be able to use any and all magazines in my 48.

It makes you wonder if the one’s doing the complaining even own one of the guns.

Are you calling the ones complaining in this thread liars?

It ain't difficult finding complaints about Shield S15's. Even Shield itself knows they have problems which is why they are on their 3rd generation.

And if the PSA Micro Dagger mags work in the 43X and 48, that will be great, but it’s yet to be seen.

I didn't know about Shields customer service problems until I read the post above. But I've dealt with PSA and their CS is top notch.

 

[GunnyUSMC]

Are you calling the ones complaining in this thread liars?

It ain't difficult finding complaints about Shield S15's. Even Shield itself knows they have problems which is why they are on their 3rd generation.
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I think you should go back and read what I wrote, without adding to it.
I said nothing about people that have posted in this thread, just people in general.
And this topic isn’t about PSA and their customers service, which I know is good. As of right now PSA is not selling the Micro Dagger, or the magazines so, that’s pretty much a mute point. But I’ll most likely buy a Micro Dagger when they hit the market.
Several have posted, like me, that they’ve never had problems with their SA magazines. But you are complaining about something that you don’t seem to have first hand knowledge about.
Now I’m not saying that some people haven’t had problems with SA magazines, I just don’t know anyone, personally, that have had problems. And I do know several people that use SA mags.

 

[dogtown tom]

.... But you are complaining about something that you don’t seem to have first hand knowledge about.

You confuse my posts with a complaint....it clearly is not. I've never bought a Shield mag, therefore have nothing to complain about. It's BECAUSE of the numerous complaints by others on many other gun forums that I've held off buying a Shield S15.

As far as "first hand knowledge"...I also don't have first hand knowledge that a Lamborghini will outrun a Ford F150 om I-35. But I believe that story. I'm blessed with the common sense to understand that first hand knowledge isn't always the best knowledge.

Now I’m not saying that some people haven’t had problems with SA magazines, I just don’t know anyone, personally, that have had problems. And I do know several people that use SA mags.

And I know people personally that have the same experience as you (they're called customers).
I also know people personally that have had terrible experiences with Shield S15 mags.

Most telling is that Shield itself recognized a problem with their mags.
First they said a metal mag catch wasn't needed except for "high volume" shooters.
First they said their mags worked just fine with the factory mags.
First they said if you are one of those high volume shooters we'll sell you an aluminum mag catch.

Then........that all changed because, well, PROBLEMS.

Then they said a metal mag catch WAS NEEDED.
Then their own aluminum mag catch wasn't good enough, you need a steel mag catch.
Then they said their metal catch wasn't good with factory mags.

Clearly you love the Shield mags and have had a good experience. I'm sure there are others with the same experience.
But its UNDENIABLE that enough people have had enough poor experiences with Shield mags that the manufacturer has done a 180 on their own recommendations and made changes to the S15 magazine.

Again, the above isn't a complaint. It's knowledge of the issues.

 

[Buzznrose]

Add me to a very happy Shield S15 mag user. I have 6 mags and two of their extensions and all work perfectly.

I used both the Shield and Hyve mag releases. Took a couple minutes to pop them in. I always replace Glock mag releases anyway, typically with Vickers Tactical, but with a shield mags, I need a metal release. I did have a buddy who bought an aluminum mag release from somewhere and that thing sucked with the Shield mag. I told him to get a Shield or Hyve, he did, and all is well.

I don’t know what’s up with those folks having issues, but I’d suggest reaching out to Shield Arms for resolution.

I have no issues with the Glock OEM mags other than capacity…I use them a lot at the range. But SA mags are 100% reliable for me.

 

[Buzznrose]

Nah. If the PSA Micro Dagger magazines work as promised you'll soon find Shield mags dumped at fire sale prices.

And why install a $25-35 metal mag catch that chews up the factory mag?

If that does happen, I’m going to buy the S15’s up like crazy!

Factory mags don’t get chewed up from metal mag releases…at least mine don't.

 

[BreechFace]

If that does happen, I’m going to buy the S15’s up like crazy!

Me too.

 

[Buzznrose]

Its because I want to be able to use any and all magazines in my 48.





Are you calling the ones complaining in this thread liars?

It ain't difficult finding complaints about Shield S15's. Even Shield itself knows they have problems which is why they are on their 3rd generation.



I didn't know about Shields customer service problems until I read the post above. But I've dealt with PSA and their CS is top notch.

1. I’ve never used Shield CS because I never needed to…

2. I can find hundreds of posts on various forums about PSA crappy CS. If you like them, great. I like their products but I’ve not been impressed with their response.

https://www.reviews.io/company-reviews/store/palmetto-state-armory

 

[someguy2800]

I think the only way that Shield stays in the game is to come out with a plastic coated mag that doesn't require a special mag release.
$40+ for a single mag AND the need for a $30 mag catch is going to be a tough sell if the PSA mag is priced at less than $25.

I don't have one but I personally don't see what the big deal is, I don't really see why you would want to be able to use the original mags at all, but that's just me. I have been waiting for PSA to release the micro dagger, but if the PSA mags are going to polymer then I will buy the sheild mags to use in it. No interest in using a 10 round glock mags because if I were limited to 10 rounds I would use a different gun. Maybe the PSA mags will work, maybe they won't, but we know the shield mags work.

 

[Captains1911]

Maybe the PSA mags will work, maybe they won't, but we know the shield mags work.

not for me they don’t

 

[dogtown tom]

If that does happen, I’m going to buy the S15’s up like crazy!

Factory mags don’t get chewed up from metal mag releases…at least mine don't.

Shield says they do.

 

[dogtown tom]

I don't have one but I personally don't see what the big deal is, I don't really see why you would want to be able to use the original mags at all, but that's just me.

For the same reasons you would want to use any extra magazine.

I have been waiting for PSA to release the micro dagger, but if the PSA mags are going to polymer then I will buy the sheild mags to use in it.

The Micro Dagger mags are metal with a polymer coating.

but we know the shield mags work.

Again, even the manufacturer of the Shield S15 KNOWS they don't work for everyone.

Fanboyism at its best!

 

[BreechFace]

The aftermarket aluminum magazine catch will chew up the polymer on the Glock mags but it’s not immediate. It’s through the course of fire where the vibrations of recoil cause the magazine to shift back and forth.

I’ve put my OEM Glock mags in and out of mine enough where I’m not to concerned with the little use they see when I’m visiting somewhere with restrictions, which I try and keep to a minimum.

 

[someguy2800]

For the same reasons you would want to use any extra magazine.

I wouldn't own them anyway because if I bought a glock 43x or 48 I would be selling the original mags it came with on gunbroker the same day. Totally uninterested in the pistol without a double stack mag so no reason to even keep them.

The Micro Dagger mags are metal with a polymer coating.

Even less interesting

Again, even the manufacturer of the Shield S15 KNOWS they don't work for everyone.

Fanboyism at its best!

Yeah I'm a fanboy of a product I don't even own. Nice try bud.

 

[someguy2800]

not for me they don’t

Not saying there are no issues with them. Every manufacturer hits some and misses some. I have 2 brand new browning buckmark mags sitting on my desk that you cannot get more than 4 rounds in because they pinch the rim. I have a couple close friends that both use the shield 15 mags and theirs run perfectly so I have seen with my own eyes that they do work. If yours don't then it sounds like shield's customer service needs a phone call.

 

[drobs]

PSA took forever to release the Dagger, then had problems (trigger pins walking out) with the early ones. Nothing is written in stone with their micro Dagger.

 

[Buzznrose]

Shield says they do.

Shield hasn’t been to my house and seen my mags….

You sure know a lot about something you don’t own….

 

[Buzznrose]

I think the only way that Shield stays in the game is to come out with a plastic coated mag that doesn't require a special mag release.
$40+ for a single mag AND the need for a $30 mag catch is going to be a tough sell if the PSA mag is priced at less than $25.

Those of us who are mainly Glock shooters do flinch at $40 mags since we are used to $20 or less options, but none are steel mags. $40 is equal to or lower than most other brand mags. Sig mags are $50.

And maybe, over time, the steel mag release will start to chew up my OEM mag but I’ll deal with that if/when it happens. My S15’s have run flawlessly, and I see them as the better mag for the G43X

 

[Captains1911]

Not saying there are no issues with them. Every manufacturer hits some and misses some. I have 2 brand new browning buckmark mags sitting on my desk that you cannot get more than 4 rounds in because they pinch the rim. I have a couple close friends that both use the shield 15 mags and theirs run perfectly so I have seen with my own eyes that they do work. If yours don't then it sounds like shield's customer service needs a phone call.

Like I explained earlier, they work in one of my guns, but not the other. So for me, they are 50%. I did call SA, they are the suck.

 

[dogtown tom]

Shield hasn’t been to my house and seen my mags…..

Which means diddly squat.
When other buyers have issues they don't go to you to complain, they complain to the manufacturer and the internet.
You data point of "my mags" is statistically irrelevant. The mags of the people that complained to Shield wasn't, otherwise Shield would not have had revisions to their recommendations, changed from an aluminum mag catch to a steel one. and made other changes from their original design.
Just like Glocks "brass to face" issue, just because one hasn't had that happen doesn't mean it wasn't common enough for Glock to address the issue.
Just like Sig's issue with their 320's firing when dropped issue, just because it didn't happen to you doesn't mean it wasn't common enough for Sig to address the issue.

You sure know a lot about something you don’t own…

Yes I do. It's called being an informed consumer.
You should see me before I buy a new TV.

 

[Hartkopf]

I've got 90 rounds out of the latest version of the Shied mag. All good so far but I'll be doing lots more testing before I trust it.

 

[Buzznrose]

Which means diddly squat.
When other buyers have issues they don't go to you to complain, they complain to the manufacturer and the internet.
You data point of "my mags" is statistically irrelevant. The mags of the people that complained to Shield wasn't, otherwise Shield would not have had revisions to their recommendations, changed from an aluminum mag catch to a steel one. and made other changes from their original design.
Just like Glocks "brass to face" issue, just because one hasn't had that happen doesn't mean it wasn't common enough for Glock to address the issue.
Just like Sig's issue with their 320's firing when dropped issue, just because it didn't happen to you doesn't mean it wasn't common enough for Sig to address the issue.


Yes I do. It's called being an informed consumer.
You should see me before I buy a new TV.

Well, you do you. “I read it on the Internet” only goes so far with me.

I’m out.

 

[GunnyUSMC]

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As far as "first hand knowledge"...I also don't have first hand knowledge that a Lamborghini will outrun a Ford F150 om I-35. But I believe that story. I'm blessed with the common sense to understand that first hand knowledge isn't always the best knowledge.

Again, the above isn't a complaint. It's knowledge of the issues.

And you believe everything you read on the internet.
I’ve always said, there are people that know a lot about things that they know very little about.

 

[drobs]

Those of us who are mainly Glock shooters do flinch at $40 mags since we are used to $20 or less options, but none are steel mags. $40 is equal to or lower than most other brand mags. Sig mags are $50.

And maybe, over time, the steel mag release will start to chew up my OEM mag but I’ll deal with that if/when it happens. My S15’s have run flawlessly, and I see them as the better mag for the G43X

I agree with you. and your points. Just minor correction Glock factory mags are metal with a plastic coating. Magpul mags are all plastic.
Figure around $30 for a new Glock factory mag and around $15 to $20 for a new Magpul mag.

 

[dogtown tom]

And you believe everything you read on the internet.

Nope. If I did I would have believed Shield Arms and their claim that a metal mag catch wasn't needed.
But we know that wasn't accurate don't we?

I’ve always said, there are people that know a lot about things that they know very little about.

Yet in this thread there are 3 out of 11 that report issues with their Shield S15 mags....are they lying?
As far as knowledge, you wrote "they were very clear about the mag release and how to avoid problems..."..........which is simply untrue. Shield itself advertised that the aluminum mag catch wasn't needed except for higher volume shooters.

Seems I know more about the Shield mags than you.

3 out of 11 buyers in this thread had issues..........them aint good numbers.

 

[Buzznrose]

Nope. If I did I would have believed Shield Arms and their claim that a metal mag catch wasn't needed.
But we know that wasn't accurate don't we?



Yet in this thread there are 3 out of 11 that report issues with their Shield S15 mags....are they lying?
As far as knowledge, you wrote "they were very clear about the mag release and how to avoid problems..."..........which is simply untrue. Shield itself advertised that the aluminum mag catch wasn't needed except for higher volume shooters.

Seems I know more about the Shield mags than you.

3 out of 11 buyers in this thread had issues..........them aint good numbers.

^^^^. Do you expect perfection from PSA’s first release mags for a Glock clone?

I buy PSA products, but they seem to always have issues with new releases that take a second generation to fix. The Dagger was clearly an example of that. But I guess the mini Dagger and their own mags will be perfect. I hope the mini isn’t another launch like the original…

https://thegunzone.com/glock-19-vs-psa-dagger/