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According to sheriff's officials, someone had waved down the sergeant to report that a drunken driver was trying to leave the area in a green BMW.

When the sergeant approached the driver, "he ignored the sergeant's directives," a department press release states, and the officer reached into the car to try to gain control. The man in the car then started to drive away, authorities said.

"Fearing the movement of the vehicle placed his life in danger, the sergeant drew his department issued semi-automatic handgun and fired multiple shots at the driver," according to a sheriff's press release.

Strong said he heard four to five gunshots and watched as Savalin slumped out of his seat.

The car continued to travel about 200 yards and crashed into four other vehicles, reportedly injuring a bystander, before it stopped moving.

Moments before, Strong said he had just buckled his seatbelt in the passenger seat when the sergeant pulled up directly in front of his brother-in-law's BMW. The officer walked over to the driver's side and asked to see Savalin's license.

Savalin, who has several traffic citations dating to 1990, told the officer that he had a suspended license, Strong said.

The sergeant then grabbed the man's wrists, Strong said, but let go after Savalin explained that he needed to fix his gearshift to prevent the car from rolling backward.

Suddenly, the BMW lurched forward, Strong said, and hit the deputy's car.

"I yelled, 'John, what are you doing? What are you doing?' " Strong said. "I think he was trying to get away, but he wasn't trying to hurt the officer or anything."
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The above scene ended when a Sacramento Sgt shot and killed the driver. More information is available on google if interested.

It is a situation that will be reviewed, time will tell.
 
Sheriff John McGinness has scheduled a press conference for Monday to discuss the fatal shooting Saturday of a drunken-driving suspect by a sheriff's sergeant.

John Savalin, 41, was killed near the Fair Oaks Bridge over the American River. Sheriff's officials have said the sergeant tried to stop Savalin because he was suspected of drunken driving, but that Savalin tried to drive away and was shot.
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More information will be available this evening:uhoh:
 
Sheriff defends sergeant's shooting of motorist
By Ryan Lillis - [email protected]
Published 11:19 am PDT Monday, April 7, 2008

Sacramento Sheriff John McGinness said today the fatal weekend shooting of a motorist by a sheriff's sergeant was justified.

The motorist, John Savalin, 41, aimed his car and accelerated toward the sergeant, McGinness said during a press conference.

"I believe firmly his decision to use deadly force was very much in policy," the sheriff said, adding that the events were captured on the patrol car's dashboard camera and supported the officer's actions.

Nine witnesses "support to some degree" the decision to use deadly force, McGinness said. However, family members and friends were sharply critical Sunday of the shooting, saying Savalin posed no threat.

The shooting was the department's first officer-involved fatality this year.

Sheriff's spokesman Sgt. Tim Curran said Sunday that officers who feel their lives are in danger are justified in drawing their weapons first.

"We don't have to do X, Y and Z before we use deadly force," he said. "If that officer felt his life was in danger, he was well within his rights to use deadly force."

According to sheriff's officials, someone had waved down the sergeant to report that a drunken driver was trying to leave the area in a green BMW.

When the sergeant approached the driver, "he ignored the sergeant's directives," a department press release states, and the officer reached into the car to try to gain control. The man in the car then started to drive away, authorities said.

"Fearing the movement of the vehicle placed his life in danger, the sergeant drew his department issued semi-automatic handgun and fired multiple shots at the driver," according to a sheriff's press release.

The car continued to travel about 200 yards and crashed into four other vehicles, reportedly injuring a bystander, before it stopped moving.

Savalin's brother-in-law, Robert Strong, was in the car and said the sergeant pulled up directly in front of his brother-in-law's BMW. The officer walked over to the driver's side and asked to see Savalin's license.

Savalin, who has several traffic citations dating to 1990, told the officer that he had a suspended license, Strong said.

The sergeant then grabbed the man's wrists, Strong said, but let go after Savalin explained that he needed to fix his gearshift to prevent the car from rolling backward.

Suddenly, the BMW lurched forward, Strong said, and hit the deputy's car.

"I yelled, 'John, what are you doing? What are you doing?' " Strong said. "I think he was trying to get away, but he wasn't trying to hurt the officer or anything."

Strong said the sergeant was standing about four feet away from the BMW.

Strong and others questioned Sunday why lethal force was used instead of other alternatives, such as a Taser weapon.

http://www.sacbee.com/749/story/843289.html
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Loved ones say DUI suspect posed no threat to sheriff's sergeant
By Crystal Carreon - [email protected]
Published 12:00 am PDT Monday, April 7, 2008
For Robert Strong, the beautiful weather Saturday was the chance to get out of the house and spend the afternoon with his brother-in-law at one of their favorite spots: the rustic Fair Oaks Bridge on the American River.

The two men arrived around noon at a place long familiar to the family. They hiked up a bluff in the sun, listened to the radio and knocked back a few beers, toasting the good times, Strong recalled. But before the sun set, Strong's brother-in-law was dead.

The man, identified by coroner's officials Sunday as John Savalin, 41, was shot to death by a Sacramento County sheriff's sergeant who had been summoned near the bridge to stop a suspected drunken driver.

The shooting, the department's first officer-involved fatality this year, remained under investigation Sunday, as those closest to the slain North Highlands man criticized it as "senseless" and painted a different picture of Savalin in his final moments.

Sheriff's spokesman Sgt. Tim Curran said he could understand the anger and grief of family members and friends, but that officers who feel their lives are in danger are justified in drawing their weapons first.

"We don't have to do X, Y and Z before we use deadly force," he said. "If that officer felt his life was in danger, he was well within his rights to use deadly force."

Strong, who was in the car with Savalin when the sergeant opened fire, said his brother-in-law was never drunk, nor was he violent.

"He had had a few beers, but he was definitely not intoxicated," Strong said on Sunday. "He wasn't trying to hurt the officer."

Close family friend David Muse also vouched for Savalin's character on Sunday, describing him as a loving father of two who "was as harmless as a fly."

"They shot this guy because they thought he was drinking," said Muse, who was not at the outing on Saturday. "What happened … is a travesty."

According to sheriff's officials, someone had waved down the sergeant to report that a drunken driver was trying to leave the area in a green BMW.

When the sergeant approached the driver, "he ignored the sergeant's directives," a department press release states, and the officer reached into the car to try to gain control. The man in the car then started to drive away, authorities said.

"Fearing the movement of the vehicle placed his life in danger, the sergeant drew his department issued semi-automatic handgun and fired multiple shots at the driver," according to a sheriff's press release.

Strong said he heard four to five gunshots and watched as Savalin slumped out of his seat.

The car continued to travel about 200 yards and crashed into four other vehicles, reportedly injuring a bystander, before it stopped moving.

Moments before, Strong said he had just buckled his seatbelt in the passenger seat when the sergeant pulled up directly in front of his brother-in-law's BMW. The officer walked over to the driver's side and asked to see Savalin's license.

Savalin, who has several traffic citations dating to 1990, told the officer that he had a suspended license, Strong said.

The sergeant then grabbed the man's wrists, Strong said, but let go after Savalin explained that he needed to fix his gearshift to prevent the car from rolling backward.

Suddenly, the BMW lurched forward, Strong said, and hit the deputy's car.

"I yelled, 'John, what are you doing? What are you doing?' " Strong said. "I think he was trying to get away, but he wasn't trying to hurt the officer or anything."

Strong said the sergeant was standing about four feet away from the BMW.

Strong and others, including family friend Muse, questioned why lethal force was used instead of other alternatives, such as a Taser weapon.

The sergeant, whose name continued to be withheld on Sunday, has been described as a 13-year-veteran of the Sheriff's Department.

He remains on paid administrative leave, pending investigations by the sheriff's homicide unit, internal affairs and the District Attorney's Office.

http://www.sacbee.com/101/story/841633.html
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I'm having a bit of trouble visualizing this scene. Apparently the Sergeant was standing to the side of the BMW when it lurched forward and hit the Sergeant's car. I don't quite understand how the Sergeant was endangered. I would be interested in seeing the dashcam video of the incident.
 
The problem here is going to be defined later by others, there will be a civil trial and it will be taken care of down the road. Right now the Department stands behind the Sgt. Unlawful death will be the one coming from the family I would think:uhoh: 9 independent witness's feel the officer was in the right to follow department policy.
 
Sacramento Sheriff John McGinness said today the fatal weekend shooting of a motorist by a sheriff's sergeant was justified.

The motorist, John Savalin, 41, aimed his car and accelerated toward the sergeant, McGinness said during a press conference.

So, the decedent supposed "aimed his car" eh? And, he "accelerated toward the sargeant"? Very odd, since the other reports of the incident describe that the sargeant was to the left of the vehicle, where he was able to reach inside the driver's window to grab the decedent's wrists - not out in front of the vehicle. The reports say that the decedent's car hit the sargeant's car.

So, that raises a number of questions. If the front of the decedent's car hit the front of the sherriff's car, and the decedent was accelerating toward the sargeant, wouldn't he have been crushed between the two cars? Especially since the dead guy was "aiming" for the sherriff? And how praytell could the sargeant *tell* that he was aiming for him? Was he of such bad aim with his car in the few feet that he moved, that he attempted to miss the sargeant's car and hit the sargeant himself instead, but his aim was so terrible that he hit the car instead of the officer? Or more likely, and more sensibly, there was no way he could have been hit because there's no way to turn a car 90 degrees on a dime as you accelerate and hit someone standing to the left of the car, even if he were "aiming" to do so, as alleged. Just doesn't add up at all. Sounds to me like there's lies, damn lies, and sherriff's press conferences. Unless there's some way that the sargeant had arms long enough to be standing in front of the car, and yet reach all the way around to the driver's window while standing in front. Maybe possible on one of those old VW vans, but not any other type of car. Contempt of cop can get you killed, sounds to me like. So what's new?
 
Sacramento County Sherrif's Dept. are usually pretty good guys. At least, I haven't heard anything to the contrary, former Sherriff Lou Blanas' political shenanigans aside (and the CCW for contributors charade).

Very sketchy info. I would hate to condemn either the shooter or the shoot-ee without much better quality of info. Sounds like the guy being acosted was either felony stupid trying to get away and making the officer fear for his life, or he had a very unfortuante accidental mishap that the officer mistook for such.
 
Not to be a jerk, but I don't see how this is really gun related other then the fact the deputy used his firearm to defend himself. There are lots of officer involved shootings, and the fact a firearm was used doesn't really make them all that noteworthy.
 
So, the decedent supposed "aimed his car" eh? And, he "accelerated toward the sargeant"? Very odd, since the other reports of the incident describe that the sargeant was to the left of the vehicle, where he was able to reach inside the driver's window to grab the decedent's wrists - not out in front of the vehicle.
wondered about that myself. Is there something fishy? is it bad writing/reporting? either is possible, but without more info (the dash cam video will clear it up pretty well I'm sure), I'm inclined to say bad reporting, as thats WAy more common than cops shooting people who were't a legit threat. We'll see though.
 
Sacramento County Sherrif's Dept. are usually pretty good guys. At least, I haven't heard anything to the contrary, former Sherriff Lou Blanas' political shenanigans aside (and the CCW for contributors charade).


I take it you don't live in sacramento county?

This actually happend about 2 miles from me. I'm sure it will be on the news for a few more days, then we will never hear of it again.
 
I am interested in this...

If the officer was standing next to the car, how in the world was he in danger? Was this a magic car that could move sideways?

The only justification that I can see is he thought OTHER lives may be in danger. This does set an interesting precedent though. Can the police now shoot drunk drivers for sport? Im not officer bashing, but this officer seems to have overreacted from what I have read. There may be more to the story though.
 
It does sound cockeyed. But the OP post said that the sargeant "reached into the car to try to gain control. The man in the car then started to drive away.

"Fearing the movement of the vehicle placed his life in danger, the sergeant drew his department issued semi-automatic handgun and fired multiple shots at the driver"."

If this is the way it happened the sargeant was in danger of being dragged by the BMW. On the other hand in one of the articles it was reported that the sargeant parked his car in front of the BMW, so he probably couldn't have been dragged very far.

Some interesting questions! Let's let the authorites and courts sort it out. They have the witnesses and evidence. WE DON"T!!
 
I'll mention what I just read about the bullet placement into the vehicle 3 out of 4 were through the windshield.
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This is some of the story

The situation quickly escalated and Rider reached in the driver's-side window to put Savalin in a "control hold," sheriff's officials said. The BMW then rolled backward before quickly accelerating at the officer, who by then was standing between 10 and 20 feet away, McGinness said.

The sheriff said the car may have rolled backward accidentally because the gear shift had been replaced by a hand tool, possibly a screwdriver.

The BMW accelerated so quickly its tires smoked and spun as it took off, McGinness said.

The sheriff said he would not release a copy of the video from Rider's dashboard camera because it has "evidentiary value" in the district attorney's investigation.

Rider, who had limited space to find cover along the narrow roadway, ordered Savalin to stop the car, the sheriff said. When he didn't, the officer fired his gun first through the BMW's windshield and continued shooting until the car passed him, McGinness said.

The officer "came very close to being hit by the car" and had a "reasonable fear for his safety," the sheriff said. Rider did not shoot Savalin to prevent him from getting away, McGinness said.

The BMW traveled another 300 feet before striking another car, officials said. A 27-year-old woman whose car was hit by the BMW was injured. McGinness disputed a claim by Strong that the BMW had struck Rider's patrol car after lurching forward.

McGinness said nine witnesses "supported, to some degree, the officer's decision to use deadly force." One woman told investigators she thought the sergeant was going to be struck by the BMW, McGinness said.

Strong and Savalin spent Saturday afternoon drinking on a bluff near the bridge. While Strong said his brother-in-law was not drunk, McGinness said Monday that the pair drank a bottle of vodka and multiple beers.

Toxicology tests will be performed on Savalin, investigators said.

McGinness, speaking two days after the incident, said he normally does not take a stand on an officer-involved shooting "for weeks or months," but that the images caught on Rider's dashboard camera clearly supported the opinion that the shooting was justified.

Savalin's family members disputed that notion. They described the North Highlands resident Monday as a peaceful man who would "run from a fight."

"John was excitable," said a friend, David Muse. "I think John just got excited. They shot a guy who was a family man in the wrong place.
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Several things created this incident, number one is the guy was basicly drunk behind the wheel not just under the influence. Bottle of vodka and some beers:banghead:
 
Let's let the courts decide this, not us. Everyone has their opinion including the participants & witnesses. I'm sure the dashcam will provide an unbiased recording of what truly happened.
 
It seems a little interesting...the comments were discussed a year ago about the Fair Oaks man who was shot by the Deputy, but then the media and the Sheriffs Dept. have not said much since. Just a thought.
 
Officer shoots a fleeing felon.


Why was the victim a felon?


Because...he 'fleed' ( even if by acident, what with being yanked by the wrists while protesting how he car m-i-g-h-t move ifnot allowed to disengauge the Gear Shift...and once shot enough and 'slumped', by golly, the Car and him in it, was rolling away, hence 'fleeing'...)


Nice and tidy...not messy at all...


Move along now....nothing to see here...
 
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