Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Lone_Sheep_Dog, Aug 4, 2011.
Should I start buying or should I wait until they show interest in firearms?
As for buying three of each - that's up to you, but IMHO, it's a huge waste of money. Kids can take turns. They don't each need their own rifle, especially when you have no idea whether they'll take to shooting or not.
While he has a toy that looks like a lime green AR, I don't think he cares about having a real gun that looks like one of his toys. He'll be thrilled to death by just having a gun of his own.
At the age of two, I wouldn't consider teaching them how to shoot for a few years yet. And when you do, I would not start with a hi-cap semi-auto. Start small, teach them the fundamentals, and buy one for them to share. Sharing and taking turns is another life lesson kids need to learn afterall, and I see too many parents who have failed there.
I would suggest getting a light rifle too, something that they will be able to carry easily. You could take them out into the woods with it as they get older, hunt some small varmints!
Another thing I would suggest is to look into some junior .22 shooting leagues. That IMO is one of the best things you can do-I wish I had done that earlier, when I didn't have to worry about High School homework
Naah. The Cricket's aren't exactly heirloom guns, and there are much better options for teaching a little one.
Look at the Savage Cub-T with the Accu-Trigger. Not much more money, but a whole lot better gun. (Same could be said of the Henry Micro-Bolt.)
You can buy whatever you want, whenever you want, of course, but you want to start from the earliest exposure to firearms with very basic safety talks. That means, from the first time your children seem to notice your gun on your belt or in your gun safe, they're hearing a simple version of the four rules.
Even a collapsible stock AR-variant in .22 is going to be quite a bit more gun than a young shooter can really handle and manipulate well. My daughter is 9 this year and has just developed to the point that she's really able to hold and shoot the Cub on her own -- and that's a much smaller, shorter, lighter rifle than any AR, with a length-of-pull and trigger reach that are designed for the very small-statured.
Don't worry about what your kids might think "looks cool." That's really insignificant. They will be so excited to get to spend the time with you, one-on-one, and -- of course -- to actually fire a gun on their own that what the gun actually is won't matter much.
Show them what that what they can do with the gun (their skills development) is what is interesting and exciting -- not what the gun looks like. Shooting isn't a game and it isn't the movies. Playing to their action-hero fan enthusiasm is heading in the wrong direction, and giving credence to the idea that a "hunting" rifle isn't as interesting as an AR-15 look-alike has you sending the wrong message as their mentor.
I already own one S&W 15-22. It is mostly polymer and weighs less than 6 pounds. It is a small gun because of the collapsible stock.
I also have a ruger 10-22. I was thinking that since I'm not interested in the ruger 10-22, then the kids wouldn't be either. I want to make it fun for them so that maybe they will be a firearms enthusiast like I am. They will see guns in movies and video games, and they won't be single shot .22's or ruger 10-22's. I'm not a hunter, so I think that has something to do with my decisions.
Don't teach them that guns are just like they are in movies and video games! That is a very bad way to get people into shooting. Get them something that they can use well and that will be age-appropriate for them.
Well, of course your kids will pick up and internalize your own preferences and prejudices -- at least when they're too young to have a wider range of influences.
That's a good reason to evaluate your own notions and statements and attitudes to make sure they're the kinds of things you really want to pass on.
That applies to all of life -- not just shooting.
Nothing can (or should) make you grow into the person you should be faster and more comprehensively than looking at those little faces looking up to you and realizing the that what goes into their brains and psyches is in your hands.
Good luck with them!
There's nothing scarier than a novice wielding a firearm with a full magazine, nor does it promote marksmanship even in adults. (Why take the time to aim precisely if you have 9 more rounds to hit your target?) If you teach them to shoot at an early age, teach them to make every shot count and force feed them safe practices. But don't forget to keep it fun, too!
http://www.henryrepeating.com/rifle-minibolt.cfm when he was 5 years old. It's been the perfect training rifle for him and his younger sister. Buds has them for $191.00 & free shipping http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_107_979/products_id/36682
I wanted to start my kids out as young as possible with single shot .22 rimfire for safety. I bought only one rifle because while one kid is learning to shoot the other is learning to spot and act as a range safety officer for the shooter.
When teaching children to shoot I work only one on one. and I am never further than arms length from an active shooter. Too much can happen in a split second of inattention for me to feel comfortable with multiple shooters until they are much more mature and experienced.
My advice is to start with a mini sized single shot rifle with iron sights. That will be plenty exiting especially with reactive targets (ice cubes, animal crackers, tennis balls etc). Later on, once they learn the basics of marksmanship and safety, you can introduce the semi autos and military style rifles. Otherwise they wont learn to shoot they will just learn to miss really fast.
The size of this type of rifle allows very young/small shooters to use it from standing, prone, kneeling and sitting positions. They are not tied to a bench and rest as they are when it's a gun they will need to "grow into" in a few years.
I picked the Henry because it was small, light, accurate, stainless steel/synthetic construction, fiber optic sights and most important of all it has a separate safety. Unlike the other single shot .22 rifles that rely on a cumbersome cocking piece as the only safety, the Mini Bolt has the ability to be carried chamber loaded cocked and safety on just like any other hunting rifle.
Over the past 12 years that little gun has been shot at least ten thousand times by not just my 2 kids and their friends but by several scout troops as well. It has held up just fine.
My son is now 17 and has graduated to a CZ 550 American as his .22 bolt action. He also has access to top end .22 rimfire ARs, and a customized 10/22. Every now and then he still asks to bring the Mini Bolt to the range as it is just so much fun to shoot that little rifle!
If this were the case for everyone, I know a lot of shooters who wouldn't be.
55 years later, I think he was correct.
You could use those less-than-lethal guns to teach and practice safety. Treat them like real guns, the kids could learn how to respect them, and then move up to (lethal) firearms.
Plus airsoft is way cheap (both guns and ammo), and you don't have to travel to a range or BLM land (for most of us), you can just be in the yard, park, or field.
Just a thought.
They shoot standing, with a 10 lbs rifle supported at 10 metres, with open sights.
Triggers are set at 300 grms (less then 1 lbs)
ammo is very cheap to, even compared to 22 lr and they can shoot in the basement of my house, where I have a small 10 meter range, without disturbing anyone.
In the pictures you can see my 11 year old daughter and 12 y old boy and a nice target of the daughter, shot in an official competition.
With a little kid, try a single shot or, at least, a bolt action. My niece is visiting now and I took her shooting. She really enjoyed my Marlin bolt action. She was way less nervous once she found out that she had good control of the gun.
A Cricket's ok, I guess, but, personally, it is a bit of a chore to use. A bolt action slows 'em down enough to give 'em time to think. At less than two years old, you've got some years yet. An AR-type rifle seems a bit much for their very first gun. The manual of arms is too much for a preschooler. As a matter of fact, it was a even bit much for some in my basic training platoon when they first got a hold of one.
The first is a Remington No. 6.
The second is an early Colt Police Positive with pearl grips that her grandfather gave me to hang onto for her.
It is tradition in my family that on your "hunting" birthday you receive a bird gun, so in 10 years or so I will be shopping for a new Shotgun.
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