Shot a Mosin for the first time

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I picked up my 3. I didn't fully unwrap them because I wanted the kids to... but I got a look at the receivers and the surrounding wood. They look new. :uhoh: Molot, russian star, 1938, 1940, and 1942.

Now if I could just get someone to trade me 54R ammo for 5.45 7n6. Nobody seems to want to trade, even though 1080 round cans are selling for about the same price as 880 rounds (2 cans) of 54r. :scrutiny:
 
They do tend to multiply. All I wanted was a M-44. Now I have 2 91/30s, 2 M-38's, 1952 Polish M-44, 2 Russian M-44's, 1 Romanian m-44 and last but not least a Russian 91/59. Cheap ammo and a blast to shoot. Love my Mosin's.
 
I've owned a couple of Mosins in my time and they both shot well. My current Mosin is a New England Westinghouse dated 1915, It has shot several groups at 100 yards that could be covered with a quarter, with Russian Surplus ammo. The New Englands and the Remingtons are the best of the breed. The Russians had inspectors crawling all over the production line, who were extremely nit picking about quality. The resulting rifles were held to some of the most exacting production standards ever, and the group mine will print would seem to lend validity to that. At least that is how the story goes, I don't know for sure. Mine is finished awfully nice, I do know that much. The polishing and finish would rival any 98 Mauser military I have ever seen.
 
There is a inherent DANGER here:

First I bought a Yugo 24/47 in 8mm Mauser.

Now, a Mosin Nagant...

So now I feel I need a K-98, K-31, A303, Enfield, Swedish Mauser, and etc.

Al countries need to be heard from.
 
Take one Mosin-Nagant, $130, hacksaw off lousy barrel at the front. Use Lee case trimmer tool, large-size, to re-crown. Use brass screws to finish bevel. Cut three-quarter inch steel water pipe to fit, gblue on with JB Weld to stiffen barrel. Remove rear sight, add $40 pistol scope. Buy Norma brass, Sierra bullets, and load.

I can easily hit a 22 inch AR 500 gong at 600 yards with this combination. Other guys are using thousand dollar rifles.
 
I have a M91/30 and LOVE it. Its one of the smoothest shooting guns I've ever shot, a nice stout recoil without being painful and unbearable, and it shoots the cheap steel cased 174 grain Brown bear extremely accurately, considering it being 70 years old. And on top of that I didn't have one hiccup in the fifty rounds I shot.
 
Both of my rifles are 91/30s. A 1938 and a 1942. They are better than I am. I've managed one inch groups at 100 yards multiple times with both of 'em. These rifles are worth every penny.
 
Twmaster said:
You forget the Japanese and the Arisaka.... :D
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And an SVT40, and G43, Garand, springfield....several Arasaka's, the list goes on and on...then you move into Krag, Trap Door springfield....it never ends my friend.

But in all truth you can do just the 91/30 and have a very wide collection for less then the price of just an SVT40 or G43/41. There are so many flavors of the 91/30 it is just amazing, and it could fill several safes themselves. Then for the crown jewel get that SVT 40....you think the 91/30 is fun try the SVT....now those are a blast.
 
@ Nathan
Also, I suggest anyone who has a M-N that they buy reloadable ammo, and make a small investment in a Lee Classic Reloader, if they do not want to get into full on reloading.
It will also give you the option to be able to pull apart MilSurp cheaper ammo and reload it with better bullets for hunting and such to keep your ammo costs way down.
30 years ago I use to buy Chinese 7.62x54 Brass cased ammo that was really good.
But due to Politics, you cant get the stuff any more.
Now it is all Steel cases ammo with steel core bullets, and the primers are corrosive even if they say they are not.
 
LAGS said:
@ Nathan
Also, I suggest anyone who has a M-N that they buy reloadable ammo, and make a small investment in a Lee Classic Reloader, if they do not want to get into full on reloading.
It will also give you the option to be able to pull apart MilSurp cheaper ammo and reload it with better bullets for hunting and such to keep your ammo costs way down.
30 years ago I use to buy Chinese 7.62x54 Brass cased ammo that was really good.
But due to Politics, you cant get the stuff any more.
Now it is all Steel cases ammo with steel core bullets, and the primers are corrosive even if they say they are not.
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Most of the surplus stuff I have seen is berdan primed, so a real pain to reload....as in not worth it.

If you want to reload for the 54R just buy some partisan new factory ammo and be on your way.
 
@ fpgt72
What I have done for many years is Buy the Cheap Surplus ammo and use my bullet puller to remove the bullets, and replace them with the same weight of soft point bullet for hunting.
If you play with the powder load, you will be suprised at the accuracy you can get.
Or save the bullet and powder and reload the military case with a cast bullet and 2400 powder, then use the bullets in my .303, and the powder in other rifles.
It sounds like a lot of work for nothing, but the primers on the old ammo is what gets weak.
But they still fire the cast bullets really well, and with the powder, bullet,& primer shortage, I am still shooting all I want.
I am not wasting good primers and lots of powder shooting blasting Cast loads and with proper loading the bullets I salvaged are plenty accurate in other guns, and far better than they were in the Mosin Nagant.
But having reloadable cases Now, will prevent the higher prices you will have to pay once the Surplus Supply runs out.

I can find surplus ammo and at prices that are cheaper in some cases than I can find just the powder or FMJ bullets for the .303.
 
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Got a Mosin for Christmas

I backed into mine went on "Cheaper then Dirt" for some AK ammo and screwed up clicked 7.62 X54R. Was left with the choice of selling three cans of ammo or getting a new gun, it was a no brainer. Fitted it with a scope and plan on sighting it in this week.
 
sounds like the OP has been bitten by the milsurp bug. my first was a enfield and 4 months later I owned that enfield, 2 mosin nagants and a springfield 1903.
 
LAGS said:
@ fpgt72
What I have done for many years is Buy the Cheap Surplus ammo and use my bullet puller to remove the bullets, and replace them with the same weight of soft point bullet for hunting.
If you play with the powder load, you will be suprised at the accuracy you can get.
Or save the bullet and powder and reload the military case with a cast bullet and 2400 powder, then use the bullets in my .303, and the powder in other rifles.
It sounds like a lot of work for nothing, but the primers on the old ammo is what gets weak.
But they still fire the cast bullets really well, and with the powder, bullet,& primer shortage, I am still shooting all I want.
I am not wasting good primers and lots of powder shooting blasting Cast loads and with proper loading the bullets I salvaged are plenty accurate in other guns, and far better than they were in the Mosin Nagant.
But having reloadable cases Now, will prevent the higher prices you will have to pay once the Surplus Supply runs out.

I can find surplus ammo and at prices that are cheaper in some cases than I can find just the powder or FMJ bullets for the .303.
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I see where you are going with that....I also have a PSL and the SVT that shoot the 54R.

That is why I got into the reloading....cleaning those to where I would want them to be after shooting corrosive is just not worth it to me....so I shoot my own loads in them.

You are correct in saying you will be amazed how much better the rifles will do with your loads. I have started using my hand loads even in the 91/30 because it just shoots so much better. I have a can of the surplus stuff that has so much dust on it not even funny....I only shoot the surplus stuff when screwing around anymore...as in lets poke holes in this or that.
 
GlockFan said:
It looks like Classicfirearms has them now for $99 if anyone is interested.

http://www.classicfirearms.com/c-r-eligible/originalmolotm9130wbayob
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I got one of these during the black Friday sale for $89, and it is a nice rifle. The "Molot" rifles are snubbed by collectors, because they are basically cobbled together Mosins (as in recently, not at a war-time arsenal), and sold as hunting rifles. To me, it makes no difference as long as they are not modified from the original design.

Mine was a Tula with DDR stamp, all matching except the mag plate which was force-matched.

I would say for $99 + shipping, you can't lose. I plan to get another at this price as soon as my wife forgets about the last one ;-)
 
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