Shot for stealing gas?

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Did anyone see this?

http://www.10news.com/news/9322430/detail.html

SPARKS, Nev. -- Police said woman was shot in the leg with a shotgun by a man who saw her and two others siphoning gasoline from vehicles in Sparks, Nev.

Sarina Ellis, 22, was taken to a hospital with nonlife-threatening injuries.

Police said the alleged shooter, Alden Noring, turned himself in shortly after the predawn incident Monday. Noring now stands accused of battery with a deadly weapon and discharging a firearm into a vehicle.

According to police, Ellis, along with 25-yera-old Allen Dixon and 43-year-old Katrina Myrick-Davidson, were siphoning gas when Noring awoke and went outside with a shotgun to confront them.

Police said Noring was involved in a similar shooting in 1995.
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lol.. doesnt look like a very smart move.
 
In Texas, I think it would have been a good shoot. Any experts?
 
In Texas, I think it would have been a good shoot. Any experts?
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There isn't enough info. If they threatened him then I would think so. If they were siphoning gas and he snuck up and popped a shell into them unannounced then no, I don't think that would be a good shoot in any state regardless of stand your ground laws.
Kinda sucks there is a law against discharging a firearm into a vehicle even if it's yours! What if I want to put down an old beat up farm truck we have in a glorious hail of gunfire???
I'm sure the damage to his truck was more than the cost of the gas they stole. The fact he's done something similar before won't help his case.
Police said Noring was involved in a similar shooting in 1995.
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I have family that lives deep in the country (rural America) where steeling gas will get you peppered in the rear with rock salt. :D
 
There isn't enough info. If they threatened him then I would think so. If they were siphoning gas and he snuck up and popped a shell into them unannounced then no, I don't think that would be a good shoot in any state regardless of stand your ground laws.
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Yeah, there is enough info -- unless the guy works third shift and sleeps during the day. Texas is unique in that you can LEGALLY use lethal force to protect your property, as well as your life ... at night. So the comment that it would probably be a good shoot in Texas was correct.
 
In Texas, I think it would have been a good shoot. Any experts?
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If it was dark outside or early morning it would have been. law states someone on your property at night/early morning that you even think their going to steal or damage your property, and if there in the process of taking your property and you think your not going to get it back you can legally shoot/kill them. law is 50+ years old ill see if I can copy it from an old post i read that quoted the actual law from some gov website.

Now if he was charged of assault with a firearm which wasnt a legal shoot he would have gotten a felony so he wouldnt have been able to get a gun very easily in the first place and he would have an additonal charge of illegal possesion of a firearm which wasnt stated in this article. So the prior charge can be pretty much thrown out of the whole equation.

I read in a newspaper awhile back a rancher had illegals breaking his fence and leaving garbage all over the place. pretty much destroying his land, he waited out one night with some family and shot 13 of them down in the south west part of texas he wasnt charged with anything due to the fact they were trespassing. Also I dont think we have a law down here on shooting vehicles on the news it showed a story about a CHL holder emptying a mag into the back of her car, which the theif got out of the and ran showing some sighn of inteligence the women wasnt charged with anything even though it was in the middle of the city.

Another example I dont know if any of you have seen those repos shows, but there was one they showed of a man in dallas shooting at the repo men driving down the street he got out of the vehicle the repo men knocked him down and took his pistol when the cops got there he was given back his gun got no ticket and got this truck back.

And quite frankly if someone was stealing my $3 a gallon gas they would become aqainted with the butt of my rifle and if they tried to run while the police were on there way and they were on my property they would get some ventilation in their vehicle as well.:cuss:
 
Seems like a thing to shoot someone over. Yeah, they shouldn't have been stealing gas, but I think gunfire was kind of over the top for a reaction.

Guys who do this stuff give gun owners a bad name. Gives the anti-gun masses one more thing to pick at. How many conversations that day do you think ended with "So you want a gun so you can shoot people for messing with your car?"
 
Justified?

In Texas, it would be a justified shooting, if it was to prevent the theft of one's property in the night.

I'm not a lawyer, but this kind of case has been considered before.

Once in the late 80's a man shot another man who was reposessing his pick-em-up truck...at night. He killed the repo man and was cleared of all charges.
 
ONE MORE TIME

LEAGALITY OF IT WILL BE WORKED OUT IN THE COURTS.
I HOWEVER WILL NOT CRY FOR CRIMINALS WHO GET THEMSELVES KILLED OR INJURED WHILE COMMITING THEIR CRIME, I DON'T CARE WHAT IT IS THAT THEY ARE STEALING.:neener:
 
What about using bean bag shot? I would think that in ANY state using a less lethal form of ammo may buy you some points. Farmers have been using standard shells reloaded with rock salt to protect orchards and other crops for years. I knew plenty of kids growing up down in south Georgia that got a blast trying to steal from peach orchards. As far as I know there was never a prosecution.
 
I doubt I'll ever understand why criminals always expect to be treated legally.
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The problem is that we are a society of laws and in the laws eyes everyone is innocent until proven guilty. In my gun I want to say that criminals caught in the act don't decerve to be treated legally (an eye for an eye). Howver, in my mind I know that not treating an "alleged' criminal legally is a slippery slope where government officals can just roust up and punish anyone they claim is a criminal. The end result could very well be the abuse of power to maintain control over the populus and we don't want that.
 
If it was dark outside or early morning it would have been. law states someone on your property at night/early morning that you even think their going to steal or damage your property, and if there in the process of taking your property and you think your not going to get it back you can legally shoot/kill them. law is 50+ years old ill see if I can copy it from an old post i read that quoted the actual law from some gov website.

Now if he was charged of assault with a firearm which wasnt a legal shoot he would have gotten a felony so he wouldnt have been able to get a gun very easily in the first place and he would have an additonal charge of illegal possesion of a firearm which wasnt stated in this article. So the prior charge can be pretty much thrown out of the whole equation.

I read in a newspaper awhile back a rancher had illegals breaking his fence and leaving garbage all over the place. pretty much destroying his land, he waited out one night with some family and shot 13 of them down in the south west part of texas he wasnt charged with anything due to the fact they were trespassing. Also I dont think we have a law down here on shooting vehicles on the news it showed a story about a CHL holder emptying a mag into the back of her car, which the theif got out of the and ran showing some sighn of inteligence the women wasnt charged with anything even though it was in the middle of the city.

Another example I dont know if any of you have seen those repos shows, but there was one they showed of a man in dallas shooting at the repo men driving down the street he got out of the vehicle the repo men knocked him down and took his pistol when the cops got there he was given back his gun got no ticket and got this truck back.
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Gotta love Texas :neener: :neener:
 
I think the general idea is you ought to confront them (at a distance) first. Then they can't say you just came out shooting.
 
thieves should be shot no matter what they steal.too bad it isn't a federal law.
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Yeppers. Don't wanna get shot at, don't mess around with other peoples property.
I read in a newspaper awhile back a rancher had illegals breaking his fence and leaving garbage all over the place. pretty much destroying his land, he waited out one night with some family and shot 13 of them down in the south west part of texas he wasnt charged with anything due to the fact they were trespassing.
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Do you happen to recall what paper this was in?
 
hell yes shoot them, it's still stealing.....if gas prices keep going up, I won't be able to park in the street anymore because of gas theft....it's coming if gas gets as high as it is in Europe...
 
My pickup has two tanks....

The rear tank is the only one that operates, bad valve on the other, so I disconnected it from the fuel line. I then put a few gallons of sugared watered gas for weight. I park the truck out in front of the house. The other tank door is secured. I am waiting for someone to siphon that tank....hehehehe....chris3
 
night and dawn

What's the deal with Texans being able to shoot trespassers at night or dawn and not during the day time? :confused: Does trespassing only happen at night?
 
because

another part of the law is that you do not have a reasonable expectation of retrieving stolen property, guess that darkness makes that harder.
 
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