My father in law is not a gun guy
Price is not a deciding factor. Thanks.
Well....shooting Trap with an 18 or 20" barrel is frustrating, and 30" barrels are unwieldy in halls and doorways.
yeah I guess i forgot about the trap idea, two barrels would be a decent idea, however if he shoots trap on day and forgets to swap barrels and gets broke into, then still in same boat. I agree with the OP, he needs 2 guns. (Dont we al)
Then you have loaded ammo issues as well.
Everyone that uses a shotgun, what ammo you prefer, and why?
Sounds to me like he is telling you pretty clearly, he wants a Remington 870 Wing Master. IF YOU ARE SURE HE is telling you he wants a pump and it is REALLY YOU telling him he wants a pump.My father in law is not a gun guy but decided he wanted a shotgun for home defense and occasional trap shooting. I generally would recommend getting two different shotguns and have each serve a specific role, but he only wants one. I recommended the 870 field/defense combo but wondered if anyone had other suggestions. He lives in NJ and wants a pump action. Price is not a deciding factor. Thanks.
By all means go for the Wing Master if he's got the $$. Worth every penny.Sounds to me like he is telling you pretty clearly, he wants a Remington 870 Wing Master. IF YOU ARE SURE HE is telling you he wants a pump and it is REALLY YOU telling him he wants a pump.
I'll tell you BOTH what he REALLY WANTS is to buy a couple boxes of 12 gauge target loads and take them with you to watch people shoot at a trap and skeet club one afternoon BEFORE YOU TALK HIM IN TO BUYING ANY THING. That is what he really WANTS if he knows it or not.
In about ten minutes you'll learn why you don't want any of that cheap ass bargain basement black plastic junk and you will see it for your self.
To answer shortly, I also think a Wingmaster with a long and a short barrel would satisfy the requirements.
Yet, now that I have tried a side by side, I just don't get why people want to shoot trap with a pump. I did it because it was all I had and will do it again to stay acquainted with the said pump, but it feels better (recoil apart) with the side by side. So much that I bought a twelve I haven't shot yet after I tried my 20. Can't wait to get it from the gunsmith (clean, inspect and grease action + new recoil pad & spacer).
For HD, the short barrel pump makes sense, but is my 18" one really that much shorter and more manageable than a 26" side-by-side (or over and under if you prefer them)?
How many 00 buck shots does it take to feel adequately protected? Is the idea of contemplating reloading a double under stress stupid?
I guess if I was to try something like a BT-99 (or better, I don't know that field well), I would understand even more the idea of the right tool for the right job.
I don't have a HD gun because I don't need it, but I go back to the short pump in inventory when I think about stuff like the riots in other places ; in that context, I would prefer a double to nothing, but a pump to a double.
As for semis, they usually are longer. I guess some models allow to switch between short or long barrel, but I don't know any, and I fear it would be more complicated. They shoot fast, don't get short stroked and almost always hold more than two.
1. Release bolt. 2. slide halfway back. 3. unscrew mag cap. 4. slide off barrel. 5. slide barrel in. 6. replace cap. Done. Way less than 30 seconds. The only real difference is the mag cap screw is captive to the end of the barrel on Mossbergs.
By all means go for the Wing Master if he's got the $$. Worth every penny.