Should I just stick with "J's" and "K's" and lose the Colt?

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I posted some weeks ago about a Colt Police Postive Special I got. Members have placed its manufacture at around 1913. Shot it today for the first time with standard pressure .38's; 158 gr. RNL and 147 gr. wadcutters. It shot great, (considering I am not the best shot on the line!) feels great with a small, thin feel when compared to a K-frame and even looks great (blue worn and slightly pitted... but in a good way-some of you will understand that). Although it's all steel it has a really light overall feel due to its size and shape. So anyway, why don't I want this gun?
The feel is really different than my M37 or M65. Shape, weight, trigger pull weight and trigger pull "stroke" are all great but really different than either S+W. The J and K are different as well but have an overall feel more like each other than either feels like the Colt. (The 37 is becoming my almost always carry gun and the M65 3" is quickly becoming my favorite out of all my guns; pistol and revos included.) There are enough other guns in my locker that I won't ever have to rely on this gun for carry or HD so I'm not worried about an occasional timing problem or putting +P's through it. I just get to thinking that even for just a plinker I may be better off with another smith. (An old M60 .38 to go with the 37? A 2-1/2" M19 just because I want one? or a 2" M10 or 4" or 6" .38 or .357 as a buddy for the "K"?) I initially thought it was perceived need for more power and the inability to fire +P that had me turning my nose up at it but I am really warming up to the standard pressure .38 as a great round.
I want to like this gun because even though they were so common, today they are so different. I'm kinda stuck with it anyway, I wouldn't sell it just to be rid of it, only trade or for cash to get something else and I don't think it's worth enough to get me something else. Maybe it'll just take some range time to warm up to it? :confused: Maybe some smith work to correct the occasional timing problem and a re-finish but that would probably cost more than it is worth, too :( (And possibly further remove any coolness factor!?) Input and advice of all kinds are appreciated.
 
Keep the Colt.

I grew up with " Smith & Wesson for Revolvers , Colt for Semi-Auto. 1911s . NO secret how I feel about Wood & Blue, Model 10s, old Kframes, J Frames and old Gubmint models....amongst other things...

- I have a 1928 Colt Detective Special. Yeah it is "backwards" from what raised with. Thumb-latch, cylinder...

Part of the reason I have it is sentimental - a friend wanted me to have one, have one like he did - an older friend of the family, a mentor to me. I razzed him but good about having a Colt Wheelgun - he was a Smith for Wheels/ Colt for 1911 fella as well...

Sentiment aside - I really like the Colt DS. Much more - I am preserving a bit of history of a time gone by. The older I get - the better I appreciate the metallurgy, Craftmanship, pride of doing a good job...of a time gone by.

I find it interesting - folks buy all the new fancy cookware,spends lots of money on the latest greatest....one day - for whatever reason they get out Grandma's old cast iron ...then they wonder why they ever strayed from what is proven, what works - the memories and history.

Pass it forward.
 
I'd give it awhile before making a definite decision. If you sincerely don't care for the gun, you might want to think about offering it to someone who would appreciate it.

Colt revolvers are now a thing of a the past, you know.
 
SM, that's a very good post..The fancy cookware thing really got my attention..that's exactly what happened at my house.

I find it interesting - folks buy all the new fancy cookware,spends lots of money on the latest greatest....one day - for whatever reason they get out Grandma's old cast iron ...then they wonder why they ever strayed from what is proven, what works - the memories and history.
 
Keep the little Colt for no other reason except that it is different. It will give you something to compare against all the Smiths. Who knows, you may find a few more Colts added to the collection in the future.
 
...one day - for whatever reason they get out Grandma's old cast iron ...then they wonder why they ever strayed from what is proven, what works - the memories and history.

I never "upgraded" from cast iron. My large frying pan was my ex-wife's grandmother's, which she bought used for $.10 during the depression of the 1930s. I bought my small frying pan new in 1976 and my omelette pan new a few years later. I'm sure they'll all be entirely serviceable a century from now.
 
Cast Iron rules. But then, I like old things. . . .like revolvers.

BTW, I'd keep the Colt. Even if you're not that fond of it, I think you'll regret it later.
 
It sounds like you just don't like the revolver and don't want to admit it. You could take it to a smith for finish and timing work but those don't appear to be your real issues with the revolver. You might just have trouble adjusting but the gun might not fit you. Give it some time and if you aren't "used" to it you might want to let it go. You could always hang onto it for the cool factor/sentimental value but another guy might have more fun with it.

I find it interesting - folks buy all the new fancy cookware,spends lots of money on the latest greatest....one day - for whatever reason they get out Grandma's old cast iron ...then they wonder why they ever strayed from what is proven, what works - the memories and history.

Because, despite 90+ years of seasoning, some things still stick to my great Grandma's pan?(that and because I've never found a cast iron wok or soup pot) I sometimes think you old fogeys would have our troops in Iraq carrying muzzle loaders. :neener:
 
I have S&Ws and Colts. A lot of each, actually. I used to have more Colts, now I have more S&Ws. It could easily swing the other way if Colt made more models.

Some Colt lovers disdain the Smiths. S&W fanciers are more likely to eschew the Colts saying the trigger feels funny. I still like both. Different strokes, as they used to say. If the S&Ws feel better to you then sell the Colt and don't look back. Life is too short to keep guns you aren't crazy about.
 
Humm...What we have here is a failure to communicate. That's the way he wants it...that's the way he gets it...

Dutch ovens make great soup pots. My 1928 Detective Special made a great small game gun recently.

Okay we will raise the price of cast iron cookware - call them " Kitchen Assault Tacticals" and the young whippersnappers will buy them like hotcakes.

I understand in the UK since they cannot have GUNS , even whacking a BG with a skillet is a no-no.

I can't wait to see the first post " Hey you guys bought your KATs yet? :D

Use Enough Skillet
 
Colts & Skillets

Buy a S&W. Keep the Colt. Two years from now ask the same question again.

If you grandma's skillet sticks, you have not been maintaining the seasoning properly. Improperly used, it will fail.

Ruiles for maintaining a cast iron skillet.

1. If it's new break it in by coating the inside with cooking oil soaked paper towel. Heat slowly until the oil begins to smoke. Keep the oil just barely hot enough to smoke for fifteen or twenty minutes. Same procedure for a skillet that has lost its seasoning.

2. If it needs washing, wash the coffee pot instead.

3. If it really needs washing, don't wash it. Instead scour it out with table salt and a damp paper towel. Detergent will strip the seasoning.

4. When you wife says it needs washing, refer her to rule number 2.

Most people was the skillet too much and the coffee pot not enough.

Properly maintained, a cast iron skillet will be more stick proof than teflon. I once had a girl friend who would not belive this. On a bet, I fried a skillet full of sliced potatoes with no oil. Turned the skillet over and they all fell out leaving the skillet clean as a whistle. (Potatoes fried brown with no oil are not very good eating though.)

A cast iron skillet will not burn food nearly as quickly as a teflon pan will.

Now here's my question. What the heck do cast iron skillets have to do with Colt vs S&W revolvers?
 
Analogy

a·nal·o·gy Audio pronunciation of "analogy" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (-nl-j)
n. pl. a·nal·o·gies

1.
1. Similarity in some respects between things that are otherwise dissimilar.
2. A comparison based on such similarity. See Synonyms at likeness.
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It has been been stated when one has run the gamut, maxed the credit cards, taken a loss on selling off items in order to buy new ones,in order to buy targets and skill, keep up with the Jones's...

One cringes upon uttering the words they once swore they would not. Those old fogey's...

Revolvers : proven, simple but elegant, character and soul, reliable, not dependent on ammo, not dependent on magazines...

I coulda bought...
I shoulda bought...
All that time and money and ...
Oh NO! I have become a Old Fogey!


Nah...you just matured is all... :)
 
sm,
Great post. That's actually how I feel sometimes. Having gone through the high-cap nine phase, the concealable .40 phase, the pocket auto and 1911 phases, I do seem to have come around to the fact the the revolver is not just a niche gun, but a great "all-arounder". (I should add I've been through the other phases but am still in 1911 phase and this coming summer with my snubby will decide whether I'm in or out of 'pocket auto-phase'.) I guess I've just learned not to try and jump on every style and caliber trend and to try and shoot more, buy less. When I'm tempted to buy the next greatest gun, I wait for a chance to rent one or share a friend's. Seems (at least lately) I've kind of settled on "J's, K's and 1911's as the best "arsenal" for me.

As for the Colt that started this cookware thread, I'm going to get it looking as good as I can without re-finishing, maybe save up to have reliability work done to it, and most likely keep it (until someone wants to trade me a "J. K or 1911 for it ;) )
 
:eek:
Kind words - I thank you.

< looking up at granite rock , reads the etching...>

One is supposed to have J, K Frames, Gubmint 1911s, BHPs, Wood and Blue Shotguns - one being a 28 ga... :D

Read on it mentions Colt Revos too...

Gonna keep mine - despite the fact the durn thing is "backwards". :p
 
Backwards?

The original Colt single action revolvers rotated clockwise. Just as all American made single action revolvers did and still do.

Even the first S&W double action revolvers turned clockwise.
So who's backwards? ;)


And most people aren't even aware that the first swing out cylinder Colt double action revolvers turned counter-clockwise! It wasn't until over a dozen or so years later that they changed to clockwise on the swing out revolvers.
 
CW vs CCW

The reason for DA revolvers turning CCW is that it puts the hand on the right side so that when the cylinder swings in or out on the left, the hand does not interfere.

Now the question is why did Colt go to the trouble of figuring out a hand arrangement that allowed it to be on the left without interfering with the cylinder swinging in and out? If it was because having the hand on the left helped locate the cylinder at the time of firing, it's no longer a valid reason, if it ever was, as even in the newer Colts the hand rides up past the side of the ratchet like other revolvers.

It should be noted that a S&W cylinder is actually located only at the rear the same as a Colt. If you doubt this, pick up a few S&W's and with the cylinder closed push it side to side while looking closely at the front end of the ejector rod. Then hold the cylinder tightly closed with one hand and wiggle the front of the ejctor rod with a finger. In 9 out of 10 S&W's the front latch is too loose to possibly do any locating. The new ball detent will be an improvement on this point.

So you really don't need the hand on the left to locate a rear latched cylinder.
 
PPS left & right

SA’s rotate CW because the hand is on the left, opposite side from the loading gate or cutout if it’s a cap & ball number. Some people say Sam Colt must have been a south paw.
 
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