Shoulder Holsters

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I know Galco is one of the better shoulder holster makers, with their Miami Classic and vertical shoulder holster options. However, for my application, I don't want leather and I can't really afford a Galco right now.

I'm looking for a nylon or nylon and kydex holster that's worth a darn. I'm specifically looking at the Bianchi Viper vertical shoulder holster, but will entertain other suggestions. I do NOT want an Uncle Mike's or similar very cheap holster. No thanks. I'd like to be able to buy a holster now for my Ruger security six 4" bbl, and later buy a similar holster for my S&W Model 34 4" bbl and hopefully my CZ-75 Compact.

So, THR, what say you?
 
Here is what I posted in another thread asking about a shoulder holster for a specific revolver:

Almost the only reason to go with a shoulder holster is if you think you are more likely to need to draw from a seated position, for example if you do a lot of driving, or you're seated at a desk all day in an office where you have to deal with the public. The only other great reason I can think of is that you can get to a gun in a shoulder holster while wearing your overcoat buttoned, and you can't with a gun in a belt holster.

I like vertical shoulder holsters better than horizontal. The horizontal ones just don't conceal well. Not at all. They make a noticeable bulge on the left side of your jacket because gravity pulls the butt down and away from your body, and only the very shortest barrels don't print through the back of your jacket, especially when you lean forward or bend over. I have a Remington Model 51, which has to be a prime candidate for the world's flattest pistol, and I can make it disappear with either the Ed Buffaloe pancake holster I have, or the belly band I use when I want to wear it under a shirt. It will disappear under the lightest of t-shirts when worn this way. If I put it in the Galco Classic Lite horizontal shoulder rig I once bought (made for the Walther PP, but a perfect fit for the Remington), it doesn't really even conceal well under a heavy tweed sport coat. Just the way it distorts the shape and drape of the jacket is noticeable. With the belt holster, you can't see a thing. And I can't button the jacket over it; the gun just prints far too clearly if I do. And remember, this is with a very small, flat autoloader. Also, with the horizontal draw, you have to leave your top overcoat buttons undone if you want to be able to draw the pistol. The horizontal draw is more popular with shoulder rigs these days, because it's a little faster on the draw, but to my mind, the lack of concealability is a huge minus, and the speed advantage only comes if you leave your coat buttons undone -- and if I have to do that, I might as well stick with the belt holster.

But I do like a vertical shoulder holster to carry a compact autoloader as a back up in sometimes. I can put the Remington in an X-15 (size 1, for compact handguns), and it still has some of the characteristic shoulder holster's bulge, but less than the horizontal rigs do, because the butt doesn't swing down and away from the body like it does in a horizontal holster, especially when you move around or bend forward, and the muzzle doesn't print through like it does with a horizontal holster. And since the vertical rig's draw is more upward, I can wear my overcoat buttoned up against really cold weather.

But be warned, if you want concealability, belt holsters conceal much, much better. They're usually faster to draw from (unless you're sitting down), and most people find them more comfortable to wear all day than a shoulder holster (though a properly fitting shoulder rig is really no problem to wear all day). But the shoulder holster is more suited to certain, particular circumstances, and if those circumstances don't apply to you, you will almost certainly be better off with a strong side belt holster.

Oh, and I should mention the upside down vertical: they are fast to draw from, but again, you have to leave your coat unbuttoned. And you muzzle your own arm -- and your brachial artery -- every time you draw. No thank you!
My question to you in this case is: what's wrong with leather? I'm not aware of any kydex shoulder holsters, and frankly nylon is a poor material for holsters in general; it's harder on the finish of your gun, and it's soft and tends to collapse when the gun's out (which makes one-handed reholstering harder), it tends to sag on the belt more and hand away from the body (for belt holsters), the gun is able to move more in the holster because of the softness of the material, it wears out faster. Leather is better. It's more expensive, but you get what you pay for.
 
Almost the only reason to go with a shoulder holster is if you think you are more likely to need to draw from a seated position, for example if you do a lot of driving,

Which is why I am looking for one. I spend a lot of time in/on various vehicles, including tractors, truck, and aircraft.

Shoulder holsters only work well in the movies

This isn't for a dedicated concealment holster, but the holster does need to be concealable in a pinch.

I wouldn't ask for this advice if I didn't know what I was looking for. I have given my criteria, I now need people's experiences with the holster I have named or other similar holsters for a judgment of quality.
 
Bianchi X-15 vertical shoulder holster gets my vote. I have carried 1911s, 6-inch K-frames, 4-inch K and L frames, J frames, and 2 3/4 inch Ruger sixes, and 4-inch Ruger sixes in X-15s and all done extremely comfortably and reliably.

Getting in and out of a vehicle with a belt holster has never, for me, been a smooth or painless way to go. Sitting in a car or at a desk with strong side belt holster was also a very inconvenient pain.

These days, and for the past twelve or so years, cross draw is what suits me best. However, when the weather is cooler and jackets/coats are the dress, I go back to the vertical shoulder rig.

Works for me. Works from some. Does not work for others.
 
Bianchi X-15 vertical shoulder holster gets my vote.

I was looking at that for my 4" L-frame, they sell right and left models, so here's my dumb question of the day: I'm right-handed, so I buy the "R" model, which will have the gun hanging on my left for a cross-draw, correct?

You're right - I have a belt holster for it but except for walking around the range, it isn't comfortable for sitting, etc.
 
Well, I have to tell you. I did try the cheap Uncle Mike's, and it was as bad as you can imagine. the holster sucks, and the slide buckles that hold the size won't stay in place. I got the Miami Classic for my 1911, never wished I had anything else.
 
I was looking at that for my 4" L-frame, they sell right and left models, so here's my dumb question of the day: I'm right-handed, so I buy the "R" model, which will have the gun hanging on my left for a cross-draw, correct?

Yes, for a right handed shooter the gun is supposed to be under your left shoulder.

Well, I have to tell you. I did try the cheap Uncle Mike's, and it was as bad as you can imagine. the holster sucks, and the slide buckles that hold the size won't stay in place. I got the Miami Classic for my 1911, never wished I had anything else.

Which is exactly why I will not have anything to do with Uncle Mike's or similarly dirt cheap crap. At least Bianchi is generally regarded as decent quality for the money, which is why I asked about them.

What about these ones from Protech?

I don't know. Those look about the same level of quality as Uncle Mikes, and with no higher res photos to see more detail...
 
Make no mistake, my Miami Classic works just fine. There are some things you have to consider with your training. Many ranges will not let you practice with them, as you will be sweeping the guy on your weak side. You also have to practice different methods for your draw, I put my weak hand on the opposite shoulder to make sure it is out of the way as I draw.

I've no idea if it impresses women, they never SEE IT.
 
How about the High Noon "Under Armor"?

I recently purchased an Under Armor for my CZ SP-01. This is a pistol which, with loaded 19 round mag, weighs in at about 48.5 ounces which is pretty heavy. The UA holds the heavy pistol well, distributes the weight particularly well and costs only about $80.00. Great shoulder holster which I reccommend highly.
 
I recently purchased an Under Armor for my CZ SP-01. This is a pistol which, with loaded 19 round mag, weighs in at about 48.5 ounces which is pretty heavy. The UA holds the heavy pistol well, distributes the weight particularly well and costs only about $80.00. Great shoulder holster which I reccommend highly.
This is the exact product I will be investing in when I get my Jericho 941. Im glad to see a positive review of the Under Armor on THR.

Im not sure why a shoulder rigs are catching so much flak in here, I have carried with one for years. I find that I can draw a large frame auto confidently and faster than I can draw a small weapon from an IWB holster.
 
I have used a Miami Classic to carry a lightweight Commander, and it works pretty good, with two magazines on the other side to balance it out. It's a lot more confortable then an inside the pants holster like the Milt Sparks Summer Special, which I also use quite a bit.

It depends on how your body is built, everyone who is serious about CCW, usually ends with a box full of holsters, before he finds what works for him.

Right now I am contemplating purchasing a Lawman Dirty Harry shoulder holster for a 4 inch model 29. There's times when I want to carry my Mountain Pistol, or my standard 4 inch 29, and a belt holster just doesn't work very good for me, in this case.
 
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