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Sig Announces new P226 E2 and P229 E2 Pistols!

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by RichardInFlorida, Jan 11, 2010.

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  1. RichardInFlorida

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  2. CPshooter

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    Interesting.

    So is this just for people with smaller hands then? I think the Sig P229 and P226 are one of the most ergonomic, comfortable pistols out there, and feel that they are just perfect as is. The control levers appear to be the same from looking at that pic.

    I don't know why Sig keeps cranking out these stupid features. They are putting more effort into being a marketing machine instead of a quality gun manufacturer. I was thinking about buying a plain jain P229R to replace the SP2022 I just bought, but I can't even imagine how one company can keep the quality control in check with all these different variations of the same gun being made. Can they just afford the real estate and equipment to crank out all these guns, or are they using the same mills and changing production back and forth between the different guns? In other words, I want a gun that is consistent with the thousands of the same gun that were made before and after it. I don't want a gun that was made in a batch of 1000, then the machine that it was made on was used to make another 1000 of a different gun. I don't see good quality control coming from that method of manufacturing.

    Who's in charge over there at Sig? They need to be kicked in the crotch if you ask me.

    At least I'll always have my H&Ks to keep me all warm and fuzzy. Now they know what quality control is all about!

    Has anyone here purchased a newer production P229 with good results?
     
  3. rellascout

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    Ask Kimber.... LOL
     
  4. joffe

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    I really like the look of this. Reminds me of the BHP grip profile. I hope they'll make it with the DAK system.

    To you haters above me, I wish we could swap hands for a month and then you could try shooting your fatty grip guns that you are so happy with you can't see why anyone would make any of a different size.. :neener:
     
  5. NG VI

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    Looks weird to me, the way they reduced the grip looks like it is kind of, well, a photochop.
     
  6. Blind Bat

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    I believe the E2 is a standard 226/229 with new grips (ie. not a new frame), the short trigger and night sights.

    I'm pretty sure I've seen/held those grips when one of the Sig guys was testing them at an IDPA even in NH. They are nice.
     
  7. CPshooter

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    Does this mean someone with a regular P226/229 can put this new grip on theirs?

    rellascout-

    That is true, but I still give the gimmick award to Sig Sauer!
     
  8. fastbolt

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    Not a few folks have been wondering when Sig would realize that they have one of the thicker & chunkier grip profiles on the market when it comes to service weapons used by LE/Gov customers, especially agencies with a fair amount of smaller stature/small handed folks.

    I wouldn't doubt but that this would be an even more welcome change than when they realized they were starting to price themselves a bit higher than the competition a few years ago and decided to cut their LE/Gov prices about $125/unit. (Of course, I didn't hear about that until I was at a meeting with a Sig LE dealer one day.)

    A decent service weapon offered with improved ergonomics which will likely make it more user friendly among a larger group of potential users is probably always a good marketing strategy.
     
  9. CPshooter

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    True. I suppose you're right about that.
     
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    Looks interesting. However I suspect it is just a revamp of the same old design. However that design is proven very effective and an excellent design overall. I think this will be a good selling pistol for Sig, especially since it has the SRT trigger according to this ARTICLE. The pistol will be significantly lower than their MSRP most likely.
     
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    I like my P229 just the way it is. I don't have very big hands, but this pistol fits me like a glove. And I shoot it VERY well.
     
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    Not a bad idea. My fiance has small hands and can't really grip my 226 properly.
     
  13. Blind Bat

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    If these are the test grips I saw then yes. I believe they were on an well loved, West German P226.
     
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    Hard to tell from the photo, but I'll bet the grip will feel pretty similar to the P250 grip (which I KNOW you Sig purists hate, but it feels pretty good and has a nice trigger). I don't have huge hands, and while the 229 grip feels just fine to me, this might feel even better. All I need now is money.... :)
     
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    This might be good for female shooters as well. It sure beats having to buy lady smiths and pink guns if you are a woman. I'm glad Sig has recognized the changing face of the shooting community.
     
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    pure desperation.
     
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    So they redesigned the grip, great. If you have small hands it's probably good news. Why all the hate? Because they haven't just bowed to Gaston and called it quits? Sig doesn't seem gimmicky to me, just successful and expanding their line like any good capitalist enterprise should. We don't live in the Socialist Repuplic of Glock. Just because some companies fail to innovate doesn't mean others shouldn't. Perfection is a goal not an achievement.
     
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    A grip redesign sounds nice.

    What would be nicer is if they'd start putting two magazines in with their guns again, since the prices certainly haven't dropped any.
     
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    Previously asked by CPShooter:

    Bought one just after thanksgiving. Standard model, .40 S&W. I chose the .40 based on some research I did on the gun, that it was a re-design of the P228 to specifically handle the .40 so I thought I'd be best served choosing that caliber. Some say it's the best designed .40 on the market. I've been very impressed with it so far. 400 rounds in and no malfunctions. Groups are good at 15 yards. Pushing it out to 50 I can still connect about 3/4 of the time-but that's my fault. Recoil is very manageable, I find that it has LESS muzzle flip than the P226 in 9mm that I've been shooting. I wouldn't throw in the towel on Sig Sauer.

    EDIT: I'm fairly sure they're back to putting in two magazines. Mine had two 12s.
     
  20. Paints

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    I agree. They have so many model variations and I really can't figure out what the difference of 99% of them are! Besides, the ability to find what you want at the local gun store is about zilch :(

    Luckily, a couple of years ago, the local store did have a standard P220, what I wanted. I still don't know what all the other P220 models are.

    As far as the grips, the 220 is thinner than the 226.

    Ken
     
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    The variations in the models of Sig pistols apply to just about every model they have. For example, the "Equinox". For all of the P22x pistols (and maybe the 232, don't quote me on that) they have this, which is the equinox grips (thicker than standard), "highlighted" parts of the slide where theres no finish, it's just meant to look good and shiny. You also get a fiber optic front sight.

    Then there's the "tactical" versions, which are very similar to the standard, but come with extended magazines, front slide serrations, and a threaded barrel.

    Then there's the versions with the beavertails on them, the name escapes me at the moment. Nothing terribly special there.

    I don't think that having different versions of a given model is such a bad thing. You have your choice of caliber, version, and trigger setup (DAK, standard DA, and SAO for some, think X5 P226). There's a gun to fit anyone's needs or wants. And now with the E2 option for grips, you can get even closer to finding the perfect fit. The main reason that stores don't always carry every single setup is the demand for it. But it's a good bet they can get one ordered for you. Sigs are expensive, and having a bunch as overhead wouldn't be a smart idea unless you were a larger business that could move them for sure. If you don't like what you see when the order comes in... don't buy it!

    Options are always good to have.
     
  22. Guns and more

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    I few years back I thought I wanted a Sig Blackwater. I went to the LGS and it felt all wrong in my hand.
    Grip too blocky, long reach to the trigger. Front heavy.
    The salesman showed me the H&K P-30 and it was like they made it for my hand. I now own one, and it's probably the finest gun in my collection.
    But I still get the Sig urge. (I have a P-238, but that doesn't count). This may send me back to the store.
     
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    I have an old Sig P228 and my newer P220 both have factory rubber grips. My P226 is hard plastic. The 228 and 220 feel much better in my hand. Maybe that's why I never warmed to the P226/40. I thought it was the 40SW, but maybe I ought to look at the grips.

    Ken
     
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    Can we just call it the SIG P226-4-Hobbits?:evil:
     
  25. Guns and more

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    Why I oughtta'

    Seriously, I wear XL gloves and I'm 6' tall. Maybe I have short fingers or something.
    But the 226 feels too blocky. I'll look at the new ones, the pictures don't make it look attractive, looks like a notch has been cut in the rear of the frame.
     
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