jdub102003
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Im looking to get into the .22 pistol game and want a full frame gun that isnt a target pistol...Just want opinions on these 2 i really like the feel of both..
sig mosquito vs m&p .22
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you will probably get a lot of bashing on the Sig here because there was supposedly an issue with it when it first came out. If I would have listened to that I would not have bought mine which has performed flawlessly and been a lot of fun to shoot.
REAPER4206969
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The SIG is garbage and SIG will not help you when it craps out.
Here is my four page thread about my current nightmare:http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/13...ranty_service__UpdateOP_SIG_sucks_balls_.html
While the Mosquito and the M&P22 are made by the same company, Smith and Wesson has the best warranty service in the world and SIG has none.
Here is my four page thread about my current nightmare:http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/13...ranty_service__UpdateOP_SIG_sucks_balls_.html
While the Mosquito and the M&P22 are made by the same company, Smith and Wesson has the best warranty service in the world and SIG has none.
hogshead
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I think Reaper summed up my opinion of the Sig well enough that I wont have to say anything else.
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I have both a SIG Mosquito and a Walther P22, and got both when they first came out. Contrary to some others experiences, mine have both been flawless. They function fine as long as you keep them clean (like most other .22's), and both have fed even "cheap" ammo without issue.
At the time I got mine, I was a big SIG fan, and got it to go along with the larger caliber guns as a cheaper practice alternative. Didnt really work out that way though. If you want to practice with your "real" gun, you need to practice with it. .22's really dont do it, even the conversion kits on the full size frames. The Mosquito is a fun little shooter on its own though.
At the time I got mine, I was a big SIG fan, and got it to go along with the larger caliber guns as a cheaper practice alternative. Didnt really work out that way though. If you want to practice with your "real" gun, you need to practice with it. .22's really dont do it, even the conversion kits on the full size frames. The Mosquito is a fun little shooter on its own though.
nofishbob
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Add me to the negative Mosquito experience group.
When I sent it in to Sig for FTE/FTF problems, they said that they had fixed it and fired 50 rounds through it with no problems. They included a flap from the box of ammo. I bought the same ammo and could not get through a mag without a malfunction.
I finally took the slide apart and found a defect in the extractor that when fixed made the little pistol about 95% reliable.
Bob
When I sent it in to Sig for FTE/FTF problems, they said that they had fixed it and fired 50 rounds through it with no problems. They included a flap from the box of ammo. I bought the same ammo and could not get through a mag without a malfunction.
I finally took the slide apart and found a defect in the extractor that when fixed made the little pistol about 95% reliable.
Bob
REAPER4206969
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Did they make you pay shipping?
tomaz45
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I have had a fair amount of experience with both. I own one. I am NOT impressed with either. Last week I had an occation to shoot the new Ruger SR22 and was very pleased. Remember that ruger has been centered on .22 semi autos since the start, and it shows.
I would take a second loos at all 3 guns, side by side, before spending any money.
I would take a second loos at all 3 guns, side by side, before spending any money.
Armed 24/7
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I have had a Sig Mosquito for 4 or 5 years. It runs 100% on Mini-Mags. That is what the owner's manual reccomends. It runs very well ( About 98%) on Federal Auto Match, and a bit less than that with Federal Red Box Bricks. Everything else is mostly just to help you practice malfunction drills. I am happy with it overall, because I just use Mini- Mags and Auto Match.
wally
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IMHO a .22lr pistol that requires ammo that costs about 2/3 the cheapest 9mm kind of defeats the purpose if its not a serious target pistol.
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I dont seem to have any issue with the winchester x stuff I have layin around in the sig. I guess I was one of the lucky ones. I'm glad I am cause I love that little 22
the count
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Simple solution to a complex problem....
Just buy a Ruger 22/45 or Mark 3. Both are as reliable as a 22 can get. Eat just about any ammo. Don't want to insult anybody, but the whole notion of having a .22 that somehow should be like your carry gun is doomed to fail. Any centerfire semi auto will have much more recoil and be heavier. A .22 is fine for plinking. Practice with a real gun for self defense.
Just buy a Ruger 22/45 or Mark 3. Both are as reliable as a 22 can get. Eat just about any ammo. Don't want to insult anybody, but the whole notion of having a .22 that somehow should be like your carry gun is doomed to fail. Any centerfire semi auto will have much more recoil and be heavier. A .22 is fine for plinking. Practice with a real gun for self defense.
Inazone
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I was leaning toward buying a Mosquito but held off due to the many horror stories about reliability. When the Ruger SR22 came out, I bought one and have been very happy with it. It's not as picky about ammo as my old Walther P22, and a lot easier to field strip.
I reserved judgement on the Sig, but just two days ago a lady brought hers to a NRA Basic Pistol class...
And I though the Erma/Excam my f.i.l. gave me was a jam-o-matic. At least that was only the last two rounds of the magazine... and I've been able to fix it, mostly.
About every third shot it would fail to chamber a round... mostly it just missed stripping a round of the magazine. High Velocity ammo helped a little.
I'll probably get a Bersa when I can find one.
And I though the Erma/Excam my f.i.l. gave me was a jam-o-matic. At least that was only the last two rounds of the magazine... and I've been able to fix it, mostly.
About every third shot it would fail to chamber a round... mostly it just missed stripping a round of the magazine. High Velocity ammo helped a little.
I'll probably get a Bersa when I can find one.
PT92
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Sig/gsg 1911-22
Why not just pick-up a SIG 1911-22 (it's a rebranded GSG 1911-22). I have had great perfromance from mine and it's a hoot to shoot:
-Cheers
Why not just pick-up a SIG 1911-22 (it's a rebranded GSG 1911-22). I have had great perfromance from mine and it's a hoot to shoot:
-Cheers
Fishslayer
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Given a choice today I'd probably go with the SR22. But the wife liked the Mosquito.
We followed the instructions in the manual. I bought a few genuine SIG METAL magazines & out of the box it gobbled up 500 MiniMags with either zero or one MALF depending on if you ask my wife or me. Now it runs about 99% on Remington Golden bulk ammo.
Gotta take internet "reviews" with a grain of salt. A lot of people don't bother reading instructions and others will bash an entire product line becaus they got the one clanker in a thousand.
I'll agree that the Mozzie trigger is about the most horrid thing ever put on a handgun. The wife doesn't seem to mind tho. :shrug:
Both are like any other .22 semi. They are going to like some ammunition more than others and one may be more finicky than the other. From what I've seen, the Sigs tend to be more finicky than the Smiths.
Personally, I tend to lean more toward the Smith because the grip frame feels more like its larger caliber counterpart. A week or two ago, I was out with a few friends of mine and we were passing a few of the Smith M&P .22s around, just plinking at clay pigeons and shot shell hulls at 25 yards with them. The three examples that we were playing with were very accurate with a pretty broad selection of ammunition. Although I wasn't paying much attention to what my friends were loading into the mags, I know that I had a selection including mini mags (HP and solids), CCI Blazer, CCI Standard Velocity, Wolf MT and some Federal Auto Match. All of it ran fine, without a hitch.
I do remember that the last time we were playing around with Sigs, I wound up just feeding them with mini mags. No malfunctions with the mini mags. The other stuff I had was hit and miss on functioning.
I was really impressed with the M&P. I know I had a blast.
Personally, I tend to lean more toward the Smith because the grip frame feels more like its larger caliber counterpart. A week or two ago, I was out with a few friends of mine and we were passing a few of the Smith M&P .22s around, just plinking at clay pigeons and shot shell hulls at 25 yards with them. The three examples that we were playing with were very accurate with a pretty broad selection of ammunition. Although I wasn't paying much attention to what my friends were loading into the mags, I know that I had a selection including mini mags (HP and solids), CCI Blazer, CCI Standard Velocity, Wolf MT and some Federal Auto Match. All of it ran fine, without a hitch.
I do remember that the last time we were playing around with Sigs, I wound up just feeding them with mini mags. No malfunctions with the mini mags. The other stuff I had was hit and miss on functioning.
I was really impressed with the M&P. I know I had a blast.
To the OP
Three months ago, after looking at the Walther, Ruger, S&W, and SIG, I went with the Mosquito.
I am a brand new shooter, no handgun experience, and my intention was to learn and practice with a .22 before buying a more typical defensive caliber. This may or may not have been smart, but it is what I did.
The Walther and Ruger were just small enough in my hands that I felt clumsy handling them. I liked the feel of both the M&P and the Mosquito. The M&P only operates as a single action. Since I have not decided on the next pistol and I did not want to limit my practice options, I went with the Mosquito. (Well aware of its spotty reputation. But my review of multiple shooting forums, and Youtube, revealed complaints and issues with all four. Caveat Emptor.)
1200 rounds so far, no failures of any sort. I understand 1200 rounds is not a lot of shooting, but the results are what they are. All ammunition to date has been CCI Mini-mags using both the 36 grain HP and the 40 grain RN. I am just about to start experimenting with other ammunition.
I am using the spring that was in it when I bought it. I cleaned it thoroughly and lubed it, using grease, per SIG instructions before shooting it. I also disassembled, cleaned and lubed the magazines, which had a tacky feel right out of their packages. My average session is about 200 rounds and everything gets cleaned and lubed after each session.
As someone learning to shoot, I won't talk about grouping, but I consistently hit in an 8 in square target at 15 yards. An instructor shot it after one of my sessions and did much, much better than that, but I didn't keep the target, so I can't provide any measurements. It certainly seems to shoot well enough for my use.
First post here, please don't beat me up too much.
Three months ago, after looking at the Walther, Ruger, S&W, and SIG, I went with the Mosquito.
I am a brand new shooter, no handgun experience, and my intention was to learn and practice with a .22 before buying a more typical defensive caliber. This may or may not have been smart, but it is what I did.
The Walther and Ruger were just small enough in my hands that I felt clumsy handling them. I liked the feel of both the M&P and the Mosquito. The M&P only operates as a single action. Since I have not decided on the next pistol and I did not want to limit my practice options, I went with the Mosquito. (Well aware of its spotty reputation. But my review of multiple shooting forums, and Youtube, revealed complaints and issues with all four. Caveat Emptor.)
1200 rounds so far, no failures of any sort. I understand 1200 rounds is not a lot of shooting, but the results are what they are. All ammunition to date has been CCI Mini-mags using both the 36 grain HP and the 40 grain RN. I am just about to start experimenting with other ammunition.
I am using the spring that was in it when I bought it. I cleaned it thoroughly and lubed it, using grease, per SIG instructions before shooting it. I also disassembled, cleaned and lubed the magazines, which had a tacky feel right out of their packages. My average session is about 200 rounds and everything gets cleaned and lubed after each session.
As someone learning to shoot, I won't talk about grouping, but I consistently hit in an 8 in square target at 15 yards. An instructor shot it after one of my sessions and did much, much better than that, but I didn't keep the target, so I can't provide any measurements. It certainly seems to shoot well enough for my use.
First post here, please don't beat me up too much.
REAPER4206969
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SIG still hasn't sent mine back.
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