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:banghead:Sig P239 April 05 Limited Edition

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I have had numerous jams with my Sig Sauer P239 April 05 Limited Edition especially when using the .40cal barrel. The slide doesn't return to the forward, chambered position and the shells do not always eject from action. The gun has been cleaned, re-cleaned and still multiple failures. Any suggestions? When using the factory .357 barrell, I do not recall any failures to date. Gun has approx. 500 rds each

Also, I sent the weapon into Sig and they "cleaned the mags, removed carbon from extractor slot & polished barrel feed ramp". "Test fired 100rds with NO MALFUNCTIONS".
Once I got it home it took me 2 for a malfunction. Another issue I notice is that after I take it to the range and break down for it's thourough cleaning/lub, there are metal shavings along the slide.
 
I'm not a rocket scientist, but it sounds like there's an issue with the non stock parts. What kind of malfunctions are you getting? Is the .40 barrel Sig or aftermarket? Would the recoil spring or mag springs need to be changed for the change in caliber?
 
From what you've said, it sounds like the .40 barrel is slightly too big, perhaps? I would guess just a little bit out of spec would be enough to drag on the slide, maybe shave metal, and definitely cause failures.

Alternatively, if it is aftermarket, it might not be too big, but slightly out of spec in some other way, so that it hangs up or has an odd angle during recoil.


EDIT: Ah, I was not familiar with the Limited Edition -- so it was originally chambered in .40? It's still possible that there's an issue with the barrel, but that's less likely.
 
SIG quality control and customer service has been going down hill for a couple of years now. Welcome to the My SIG doesnt work club.

Call customer service, or better yet call Ron Cohen's office and complain that will get you a prepaid label and some special help from their customer service department. Its what I had to do to get my defective P220ST repaired last spring so it would feed and fire a whole magazine without jamming.

Perhaps you will even get a set of free night sights for your trouble, like I did.
 
Correct, this gun is chambered from the factory in .40cal & it has never fired reliably with the .40cal. The only thing non-stock on the gun are the night sights. The gun shoots fine with the Sig .357barrell & that is now, the only way I will carry it. I will definately contact this Ron Cohen and see how this is resolved. Thanks for help & will keep this updated.

Regretfully signed,
New member of 'My Sig Doesn't Work Club'
 
Maybe you do have a lemon, every manufacturer has them every now and then. I currently own a total of 8 Sigs - two of them P239s. My P239 .40S&W has functioned flawlessly since new with both 40 and .357sig - never a problem. My P239 SAS 9mm the same, it's one of my carry guns. I bought a new P226 a few months ago and the hammer would intermitently follow the slide forward. I called Sig and they emailed me a UPS label and told me to return it. My gun came back in one week with the problem fixed (they replaced the hammer and sear).
I guess you've tried different ammo and magazines. Are the magazines for .40S&W? The .40S&W mags will work for .357sig but not the other way around. Do you know anyone with a P239 .40S&W that you can try their barrel in your gun?
Hopefully you get your Sig working the way it should - Good luck.
 
I purchased an SIG P239 Apr 05 Limited Edition when they came out. I had no problems with it. I never shot it with .357SIG as I already have a .357SIG P239. The only time I ever had a SIG jam was qualifying one day years ago and I forgot to put some oil on the slide. The range master told me to go to the rear and put some oil on the slide. I put one drop on each side and the gun worked flawlessly since, along with all my SIGs.

I do own two that I have never fired, as P245 Custom Shop Nickled #53 of 75and a P2009 special made in 2005 (only 300 made). I hope your problem is settled soon.

Gene
P2009
 
Does it do that if you let someone esle shoot it? If so find the nearest lake and then go find something that doesn't do that.


tk
 
SIG quality control and customer service has been going down hill for a couple of years now. Welcome to the My SIG doesnt work club.
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Hmmm, I've heard of many issues with Sigarms 1911 platforms, but not in the P series handguns.

The only issue I had was with a used, out od state P226ST 9MM. It seems the ten round magazines require a slightly longer slide stop to be installed. Sigarms took care of it right away.

I love my Sigs.
 
"SIG quality control and customer service has been going down hill for a couple of years now. Welcome to the My SIG doesnt work club."

Where does this stuff come from? No substantiation, he had a problem, a friend of a friend had a problem, so the entire line is substandard. I own two P239s. Both were purchased within the last year, one is in .357 Sig (originally .40 but I converted it), the other is a 9mm. Both have been absolutely flawless. My assigned weapon is a P229, again flawless. Stuff happens with any gun, any product. Sig remains one of the few guns that I have full confidence in right out of the box. They require virtually no after-market do-dads and IMHO remain the gold standard in quality (or about as close as you are going to get in an assembly line weapon). If you are going to make a statement like that for all to see, you better be prepared to quantify, otherwise, it's just another opinion.
 
Extractor Pin Help!

Well, it has happened again. After taking my P239 out to the range with the factory Sig .40cal barrell & 40S&W 165gr FMJ by Winchester, it jammed...yet again! Not only did it jam but after dropping the spent clip and introducing another, the slide did not go to the full forward position to fire. Also, there are still issues on the underside of the rail having burrs and this is probubly what is keep the slide from functioning.

Does anyone know how to clean the extractor? This is one of the issues given by the factory when it was sent back to the factory in Sept. '06.

Note: I use the full line of Tetra Gun cleaner & lube.
 
Wow craigster must be hard finding two P239's in Nepal:)

I can only base my conclusion on my personal experience. 6 calls to customer service 45 minutes wait on the line each time. 1 recoil spring recieved in the mail when I asked for an extractor and they told me 4 times they would send one (still waiting for it since april 06).
After three weeks calling those MORONS, I gave up and called the president of the company. It still took 4 more calls going back and forth with Chris the CS manager before they managed to send me a prepaid UPS label (they kept saying they would e-mail it and it didnt arrive due to computer problems they said).

Then I see at least 10 other folks within one month complaining on SIG forum about the same problem with their 220ST.

Then there are the tooling marks from dull cutters all over my ST.

Poor QC Poor Customer Service
SIG Hell and .................................

Back Reliability???
 
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First thing to do is try different ammo. Also, have someone else shoot it. This will tell you if it's the ammo or your grip. Otherwise, I'm a Sig dealer in north Dallas (Frisco), give me a call if you can't get through to customer service, or if you'd like to meet up for a range test. (I can bring a few other sigs ... :)) I'll do what i can to get you an RMA to have it sent back. Those sort of things shouldn't be happening on a P-series. -Ted/TNG Hardware 972-786-1800
 
I have not tried different ammunition but will once I get the gun back from SigArms; it was sent back on Tuesday via UPS NDA prepaid from Sig.

Other shooters have had the gun jam so it's not only me & the fact that the slide stops when released to the forward position definatey shows that somethings else is going on with the action.

Thanks for the info and once I get it back & see what the outcome is from SigArms, I'll update.
 
** UPDATE **
SigArms called me and want to replace my P239 April 05 Limited Edition, which I paid a premium for, with a two tone P239.
 
"SIG quality control and customer service has been going down hill for a couple of years now. Welcome to the My SIG doesnt work club."
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Where does this stuff come from? No substantiation, he had a problem, a friend of a friend had a problem, so the entire line is substandard. I own two P239s. Both were purchased within the last year, one is in .357 Sig (originally .40 but I converted it), the other is a 9mm. Both have been absolutely flawless. My assigned weapon is a P229, again flawless. Stuff happens with any gun, any product. Sig remains one of the few guns that I have full confidence in right out of the box. They require virtually no after-market do-dads and IMHO remain the gold standard in quality (or about as close as you are going to get in an assembly line weapon). If you are going to make a statement like that for all to see, you better be prepared to quantify, otherwise, it's just another opinion.
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I've heard numerous reports of failures of Sigs from Navy personnel in the sandbox (anecdotes, sure, but consistent ones), and Sig failed to make grade in durability and reliability when my PD was T&Eing for a new gun. The gun in question was, IIRC, the P226 in .40 S&W. They exhibited numerous failures, and after multiple trips back to Sig, the Sig reps were finally told to not bother sending them back for further testing. This was last year.

Mike
 
Just make sure that our replacement 239 isn't a CPO and that it is a brand new one! You bought a new gun, no reason to accept a used gun in trade. JMHO.
 
The only time I ever had a SIG jam was qualifying one day years ago and I forgot to put some oil on the slide. The range master told me to go to the rear and put some oil on the slide. I put one drop on each side and the gun worked flawlessly since, along with all my SIGs.
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I would strongly recommend using a quality brand of gun GREASE, not oil, on the slide. This can solve quite a few problems.
 
** UPDATE **
SigArms called me and want to replace my P239 April 05 Limited Edition, which I paid a premium for, with a two tone P239
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So what did Sig say was wrong with it??
If they are going to replace it, tell them you want a P239 SAS in 9mm or .40S&W and 3 extra mags. They are worth closer to what you paid for for your Limited Edition.
 
The gentleman I spoke with didn't have any answers just that they wanted to replace it. I didn't accept their two-tone offer but I did mention the SAS and they have to get back with me.
I had Hogue grips, from the factory, and night sights on the LE.
 
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