Sig P250 sub compact range report

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This was supposed to be my new EDC but it failed it's initial range testing.

Purchased new at Gander Mtn couple weeks ago. $379 with one magazine. I had handled it a couple different times before purchase and the size and weight seemed just about perfect for concealed carry for my purposes.

First thirteen rounds were 124 grain Speer Gold Dots. Round number seven failed to eject. To be specific the round fired and anticipating no problem I pulled the trigger again. Nothing. Inspection showed that round seven was still in the chamber but had been fired. Never had that happen before with any semi auto. Don't have a clue what caused that.

Next thirteen were LRN reloads. No problems.

Next thirteen were Remington white box. Got a stove pipe on round number four. Ran another thirteen Rem WB with no problem.

I know a tight gun can cause some problems in the first hundred rounds but this gun is not tight. The slide to frame fit is very sure footed as semi autos go but the slide movement is fluid. Bottom line, I'm disappointed. I'll continue to test the gun and work through at least three hundred rounds but for me anything that I carry has to be flawless. I've got a few that are so for now I'm back to something else.
 
Thanks for the write up wvshooter. I have been looking at putting a SIG P250 subcompact .40 on lay away at Gander recently. Keep us informed if things get better with your pistols reliability.
 
That's too bad, wvshooter.

When was that gun manufactured?

Sometimes a new gun needs to be cleaned. New guns are basically a compilation of parts that haven't 'rubbed' together that much. Keep at it -- It will hopefully smooth out and not be an issue.
 
Now that I think about it, the first one with the Speer Gold Dot was probably a misfire in that it didn't have enough bang to push the ejector back. The other one could be any number of things from it being a new gun to a problem with the magazine. How many mags do you have? One thing that does suck with the P250 is that you typically only get one mag.

Also, Speer Gold Dot and Hornady XTP are usually the hardest for a gun to digest. I usually have my best luck with Federal. Also, unlike a lot of people, I prefer to shoot FMJs through my 9mms.
 
When was that gun manufactured?

Sometimes a new gun needs to be cleaned. New guns are basically a compilation of parts that haven't 'rubbed' together that much. Keep at it -- It will hopefully smooth out and not be an issue.
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This one has the squared inset at the bottom of the grip so it should be recent manufacture. I gave it a thorough cleaning before shooting even though it was one of the cleanest new guns out of the box I've ever seen.

It's a great looking piece, easy to conceal, accurate, with light recoil and despite the long trigger pull and reset it can be run pretty fast. I would love to carry it if it can become reliable.
 
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This one has the squared inset at the bottom of the grip so it should be recent manufacture. I gave it a thorough cleaning before shooting even though it was one of the cleanest new guns out of the box I've ever seen.

It's a great looking piece, easy to conceal, accurate, with light recoil and despite the long trigger pull and reset it can be run pretty fast. I would love to carry it if it can become reliable.
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I'm pulling for you.

As much as I like the P250, if it isn't 100% reliable then you should get another gun.

The date of manufacture should be on the box. Mine was June 13, 2011. Yours sounds like a Gen 2. I assume it has the standard Picatinny rail instead of the proprietary Sig rail?

What version? Sounds like a subcompact 9mm.
 
The date of manufacture should be on the box. Mine was June 13, 2011. Yours sounds like a Gen 2. I assume it has the standard Picatinny rail instead of the proprietary Sig rail?

What version? Sounds like a subcompact 9mm.
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Date on the box is Dec 16, 2010. It is a sub compact 9mm and has no picatinny rail of any kind. Only the compact frame and larger have a rail.
 
I'd say the following about any semi auto. I understand the absolute necessity for 100% reliability with a SD gun. Further, I fully appreciate that one would hope for 100% reliability from the git-go, but I think that your plan to put at least 300 rounds through the gun before fully judging it is appropriate. Some guns for some shooters take some breaking in, acclimation, and/or adjustment. Tightness in a new gun isn't always apparent or obvious, and SIGs do tend to be tight. If the problems continue I'd also recommend having other shooters try out the gun to rule out shooter induced malfunctions. That's nothing against the shooter, but some folks do better with some guns than others and if the gun isn't suited to you you can move on without second thoughts.

If you haven't already I'd recommend looking at the SIG lubrication tutorials such as http://grayguns.com/lubrication-of-sig-sauer-pistol-rails/ . In my experience SIGs like to run well lubricated, but more importantly, properly lubricated.
 
I picked up one for $369 about 3 weeks ago. 9mm SC made in April. I've got a little over 200 rounds through it. Mostly CCI FMJ but a few Speer +Ps. No problems at all. Just not sure if I am going to like the trigger and the size and weight doesn't really differntiate it from my G19s. Might trade it in for something smaller (single stack) or a G26 (common trigger and mags to the 19).
 
Sig P250 range report

Got back to the range and put another 100 rounds downrange. I love the looks and feel of this gun. I love having 12 + 1. I love the fact that it's a Sig. Unfortunately I can't get past the trigger.

For concealed carry self defense I train on being able to get off four or five accurate rounds in two seconds. The 250's long trigger reset won't let me do it every time. I love the gun, it's just not able to do what I need for it to do.

I also had another stove pipe this time out. That's really disappointing. There's no limp wristing here. I use a firm two handed grip when shooting. Don't know what to say except the gun isn't cutting it. I have other guns that are a thousand percent reliable and even if this gun was there's still that unbelievable long trigger pull and reset. I think the gun I should have added was Ruger's SR9 compact or maybe a small glock.

That's the great thing about the shooting sports. There's always something else out there to buy.
 
wvshooter said:
Got back to the range and put another 100 rounds downrange. I love the looks and feel of this gun. I love having 12 + 1. I love the fact that it's a Sig. Unfortunately I can't get past the trigger.

For concealed carry self defense I train on being able to get off four or five accurate rounds in two seconds. The 250's long trigger reset won't let me do it every time. I love the gun, it's just not able to do what I need for it to do.

I also had another stove pipe this time out. That's really disappointing. There's no limp wristing here. I use a firm two handed grip when shooting. Don't know what to say except the gun isn't cutting it. I have other guns that are a thousand percent reliable and even if this gun was there's still that unbelievable long trigger pull and reset. I think the gun I should have added was Ruger's SR9 compact or maybe a small glock.

That's the great thing about the shooting sports. There's always something else out there to buy.
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Sounds like you gave it a fair shot.

Best of luck.
 
Sounds like you gave it a fair shot.
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I'm going to keep working with it. The JHP's I was shooting were Speer Gold Dots. I'm going to try some JHP's with more rounded noses. Got a feeling that would eliminate the failures. All of the FMJ ball I shot yesterday cycled fine.

I guess to be fair it should be possible to master the trigger with enough practice. If the trigger reset was just a quarter inch shorter it would be so much easier to run fast.
 
Yeah, keep at it. It's a great gun. Some of the best guns have trouble with Speer Gold Dot. Of course, I'm a believer that FMJ is more than enough for self protection. I think gun enthusiasts tend to max out everything more than it needs to be. A lot of people think FMJ is only suitable for plinking, which couldn't be more wrong. I never have problems cycling FMJ through any gun that I buy these days. I've heard great things about the Speer Lawman TMJ. I think I'll give it a shot.

The P250's trigger, alas, is not meant to be cycled race-horse fast. The DAO is an attempt at two things. The long draw makes a negligent discharge less likely, and it has the same trigger pull over and over again. Amongst DAO purists, the P250 has an EXCELLENT trigger. With practice, you can learn to be faster than you need to be with the P250.

I have a snap cap in mine, and practice dry-firing. It's not as hard to learn as you might think. Once you get the psychology down as to why it is what it is, then it comes a lot faster to you.
 
The P250's trigger, alas, is not meant to be cycled race-horse fast. The DAO is an attempt at two things. The long draw makes a negligent discharge less likely, and it has the same trigger pull over and over again. Amongst DAO purists, the P250 has an EXCELLENT trigger. With practice, you can learn to be faster than you need to be with the P250.
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Precisely. Having worked with the trigger I find the reset allows for shooting as fast as I can accurately shoot. For me the reset ends up being perfect.

BTW, apparently the Dutch Ministry of Security and Justice thought enough to have just awarded a contract to SIG for 42,000 P250 after what was described as two years of exhaustive testing. Other pistols in the trials were from HK, Walther, and Beretta. The P250 will replace the Glock 17 and Walther P5.
 
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so far my p250 sub compact 9mm from aim is a winner i only have about 50 rounds it ,wolf polyformance 115 gr .
 
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Precisely. Having worked with the trigger I find the reset allows for shooting as fast as I can accurately shoot. For me the reset ends up being perfect.

BTW, apparently the Dutch Ministry of Security and Justice thought enough to have just awarded a contract to SIG for 42,000 P250 after what was described as two years of exhaustive testing. Other pistols in the trials were from HK, Walther, and Beretta. The P250 will replace the Glock 17 and Walther P5.
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Those P250s being purchased by the Dutch (like the 3700 bought by the Hong Kong Police a few years ago) are to be made in German facilities, by German workers, to German standards, under German management. The P250s we buy here in the US are made by American workers under American management to American standards. Quality and reliability as seen in the German P250s would not necessarily be indicative of the same quality and reliability in the American versions..
 
Quality and reliability as seen in the German P250s would not necessarily be indicative of the same quality and reliability in the American versions..
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Yes, the American version may be superior :neener:
 
Thanks for the continuing reports, I really hope you get it worked out since you are sticking with it for now. I really do want the p250 to be good, eventually.

That said, I had been looking at them for a while now and finally got a couple in my mitts. I was sad to discover that that is the first model of Sig that hasn't been heaven in my hands. I think they were almost as bad (for me) as a glock, in terms of not fitting the way my hands work. The double-action trigger I thought was quite nice for what it was though, very smooth and not too long/hard for my tastes. Probably the revolver shooting I started on. I've not scratched the 250 of my list YET, but I'm going to wait for a while and see how they shake out.
 
That said, I had been looking at them for a while now and finally got a couple in my mitts. I was sad to discover that that is the first model of Sig that hasn't been heaven in my hands.
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If you can see if you can try the feel of the original P250 grip module. I prefer the ergos of the first style. It will require changing the floor plates on the newer mags, but some mags are coming with both style floor plates.
 
Fed. Ex. just brought my P-250 back from a little vacation in NH. Light primer strikes and failures to reset. This is an early model that I just bought and had taken to the range once.
The CS guy was quite nice and helpful. The gun was back in less than two weeks. They put in a new trigger groupe. That pretty much says that they replaced everthing in the frame with the exception of the mag release and take down lever. I also got a new extractor. So the gun has been brought up to snuff and from what I have read on other posts should function like a Sig. They sent a note that said they fired 50 rounds through it with no problems. I have high hopes that all is well now.:)
 
Capt. Ct. said:
Fed. Ex. just brought my P-250 back from a little vacation in NH. Light primer strikes and failures to reset. This is an early model that I just bought and had taken to the range once.
The CS guy was quite nice and helpful. The gun was back in less than two weeks. They put in a new trigger groupe. That pretty much says that they replaced everthing in the frame with the exception of the mag release and take down lever. I also got a new extractor. So the gun has been brought up to snuff and from what I have read on other posts should function like a Sig. They sent a note that said they fired 50 rounds through it with no problems. I have high hopes that all is well now.:)
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SWEET!

Good shooting!
 
Sorry about your troubles. My 250 in .40S&W has been flawless with Win HP, Hornady and all my reloads. I picked mine up early this year, Feb or March. The trigger takes a little work, but I don't find it to be bad. The reset is longer than I like, but with practice (<3x every week) I can get two head shots, reload and 4 COM shots off well under 4sec (3.5-3.7). Not as fast my Glocks or M&Ps, but something I comfortable carrying. Good luck with it and hope it works out for you.
 
Even though Sig fixed it in 2010, I would place my highest trust in the ones manufactured in 2011.

Mine was manufactured in June 2011, and it runs like a machine. Zero problems.
 
according to sig, all 2010 gen 2 models should be fine. i have one made in oct '10; no problems-great trigger.
 
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