sigma + good trigger job = m&p?

[piranha45]

I've neither owned nor shot either gun. But the only complaint anyone ever brings up about the sigma is its difficult trigger.

Therefore its conceivable that a sigma with a quality gunsmith trigger job could put it in the same league as the m&p, for a little less price.

Right? If not, why?

 

[FieroCDSP]

I own both. The M&P is ambi, the Sigma is not. So in that respect, they are nothing alike. Both have good ergos. The Sigma is a bit heavier. I've had feed problems with WWB in the Sigma (thoughfew, and I may have been limp wristing), and I've only ever had feed problems with a few handloads in the M&P. The M&P is 1 inch longer total length, but only 1/4" longer from slide front to back. The M&P is also longer in the grip. The slide serations on the M&P give you a better grip.

I'm not sure how you could equate two guns from the same manufacturer, with different designs as being the same except the trigger. If you're asking whether you should buy one or the other, I'd recommend an M&P. As to smithing the Sigma trigger, it's not worth the effort. You'll only be able to get it down to where the M&P factory triggers are by sacrificing safety. The Sigma trigger was designed to avoid AD while conceal carrying, and to meet every states' requirements to sell them there. If you're looking at an inexpensive carry piece or are transitioning from wheel guns to autos, the Sigma is perfectly fine and the latest models have been performing almost flawlessly.

 

[Coronach]

sigma + good trigger job = m&p?

Not even close.

Mike

 

[Black Majik]

I believe S&W marketed the M&P to be nothing in relation to the Sigma.

Whole new design, and they hit a homerun with it.

 

[Anna's Dad]

From what I read on (I think) mp-pistol.com, there's not a single interchangeable part between the two pistols.

I have never fired the Sigma so I can't compare beyound what I have read. I really love my new full-size M&P 9mm though!

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

Only the hinged trigger is similar in appearance. The mechanism between the trigger and striker is completely different.

 

[Edmond]

You need a come along to break the trigger on a Sigma. Plus, the Sigma is just plain crap... It'd serve well as a paperweight, though.

 

[Mikeo]

I have yet to have my first failure with my 9VE. I have fired WWB FMJ and HPs, Blazer and Blazer brass, all the exotic 9mms and even Ultramax. I've probably forgotten a few, too.
1. No failures, not fire, feed or eject. Not one. Approx 2k rounds, so far.
2. The trigger is NOT as bad as people make out. I liken it to a DA revolver. If you can shoot a DA revolver, you CAN shoot this.
JMHO. Others may dispute, but I like, use it and trust it.

 

[Chris Rhines]

There is no way to make the trigger on a Sigma even approach that of a stock M&P. Can't be done. I've tried.

- Chris

 

[piranha45]

There is no way to make the trigger on a Sigma even approach that of a stock M&P. Can't be done. I've tried.

LOL! good to know.

very enlightening posts, for me.

 

[Coronach]

I actually discussed that with Dan Burwell of Burwell gunsmithing. He says that he does not know why people even bother to try and fix the Sigma trigger. To paraphrase, it can be made better, but never be made good enough to be worth the effort.

Mike

 

[Edmond]

It's a shame that the Sigma has the S&W name on it. In case you guys haven't noticed, I'm not a fan of the Sigma.

 

[SouthpawShootr]

To paraphrase, it can be made better, but never be made good enough to be worth the effort.

Wise words. Determine whether you can tolerate the Sigma trigger before you buy the gun. These are not like S&W revolvers where a decent gunsmith can turn a gritty, nasty trigger into a glass smooth masterpiece with a little bit of work. I have a Sigma. It's a pretty good SD piece but some effort must be expended to learn the trigger. I definitely wouldn't select a Sigma for range use.

 

[jon_in_wv]

I wasn't even interested in looking at the M&P because I thought it was nothing more than a glorified Sigma. When I finally took a good look at it I realized what a piece of art it really is. I own two now and both are awesome guns. My M&P 9c is my trusted companion and is on my hip to protect my family when we venture out.