Silly simpson gun control video

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I’ve never really watched either of the programs involved but both of them strike me as the wrong place to foster political views on anything. Here’s why. Both tend to rely on slapstick humor and exaggerated views of society with an emphasis on the ridiculous. The Simpson’s bit simply wouldn’t happen in the world, background results portrayed would be a denial; end of purchase. The other bit portrays a gun nut in the extreme, a view just waiting to be spread by the more “progressive” members of the political spectrum as an example of someone who shouldn’t be allowed near a firearm. Multiple firearms stashed under the nose of the family screams paranoia and could equally be viewed as a dangerous personality for gun possession. (The rest of the footage, in the Simpson clip, is just propaganda and poorly juxtaposed to send an anti-American and anti-gun message.)

The second half of the “family guy” (?) bit actually holds a grain of truth and I have used the exact method of defusing an anti-gun rights activist, two of them really. A simple camping trip in the middle of the PRK with my leftist college friend and a deep cover carried .44mag Super Blackhawk, I left my apartment keys with another leftist friend who was collecting my mail and watering plants and such.

A weeklong trip holding several amusing stories and mini-adventures was brought to an abrupt halt when the gun was discovered, conveniently on the last night. An intense discussion followed and I simply asked the question, “the gun’s been with us for a week, did it kill anyone in your presence?”. He stuttered and stammered the usual platitudes and then slowly had to admit that without human intervention a gun couldn’t do anyone harm. An hour later a bear wandered through the campground and I had to stop him from asking for the gun out of fear for our safety, I firmly told him that as long as the bear went about it’s business the gun wasn’t to see the light of day. A changed man seemingly, his philosophy altered with a single instance of rational thought, the bear helped a just a little. (It was scared off by banging a hammer and shovel together.)

On returning home, to my dismal apartment, I pulled the small duffle with the gun and walked over to my other friends’ door to collect my keys and drop off several small gifts in thanks for her stewardship of my belongings. We chatted about Sequoia/ Kings Canyon for a while and then she launched into a tirade about guns. She was in a complete tizzy over her husbands desire to buy a shotgun for home defense, they had been fighting over it for three days. She proclaimed a gun would never cross her doorstep. I immediately apologized and offered to leave confessing my burden in the bag. She froze in horror and I asked a simple question, “do you think it can open the bag and hurt you by itself?” An hour later I was able to leave for my own apartment, I didn’t change her but I was able to convince her that only human intervention with evil intent could make a firearm a lethal weapon.

Burying a message inside a joke or a silly cartoon negates the message or makes a mockery of it. Only by honest effort and rational conversation will anyone be taught to reason for themselves instead of accepting a predetermined dogma generated by a political or socialist agenda.
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To meinbruder

I really appreciate hearing about someone who can use facts and logic to support a case without resorting to platitudes and emotion. Excellent story
and well done.
 
It's open season on everything on those adult cartoon shows. they are not near as message-laden as the cop show series back in the 70s and 80s. Those shows came up with anti-gun message episodes everytime the congress was about to vote on "Saturday Night Special " bans and other such things.

The other night on American Dad, they set up a time-travel paradox thing where events conspired to prevent Henkley from shooting President Reagan. As a result, there was no sympathy vote and Mondale won the next election. He immediately turned over the United States Government to the Soviet Union. The major networks of a few years ago would never make fun of liberoids in this manner.
 
They didn't show the part where all his freinds saw how irresponsible he was acting with his gun and refused to let him keep it and and stopped talking to him. :fire: Stupid propaganda.
 
Satire

Both tend to rely on slapstick humor and exaggerated views of society with an emphasis on the ridiculous.

The definition of satire from Wikipedia:

Satire (lat. medley, dish of colourful fruits) is a technique used in drama and the performing arts, fiction, journalism, and occasionally in poetry and the graphic arts. Although satire is usually witty, and often very funny, the primary purpose of satire is not primarily humour but criticism of an event, an individual or a group in a witty manner.
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I didn’t change her but I was able to convince her that only human intervention with evil intent could make a firearm a lethal weapon.
Well, technically, stupidity can make a firearms a lethal weapon as well. It is not always evil intent.
I guess I am thinking of the "I was cleaning it and it went off" lies or the idiot playing movie cop with a gun and not checking the chamber.
 
Actually, that Simpson's episode in its entirety isnt that bad. Throughout the episode Homer is clearly being a complete moron with the gun.. It's kinda like a "how to" on NOT safely own a gun. IIRC, Homer gets rid of the gun at the end of the episode, and then everyone gets robbed. I dont think the Simpson's are anti-gun.. there's that other episode where they get rid of all the weapons and aliens come down and take over

Family guy takes jabs at gun owners.. like when the cop acidentally shoots Charlton Heston and Heston says, "It's OK son, it's your right" :)
 
You and I know the said episode is ridiculous, but do the other people viewing it know that? I bet most Americans know that the Simpson episode is pure entertainment. I have no feelings of hate for FOX nor the Simpson writers.

However, shame on Charles Moffat for creating that video and spreading outrageous lies. Once again this person proves you can manipulate anything to spread your propaganda. Clearly that Simpson episode was made for entertainment. Charles is trying to pass it off as the philosophy of average Americans. I watched a few of his other videos and couldn't help but notice his HATE for Americans.

On the flip side, I think the USA's 1st amendment is a right for all people, no matter what country they are from. It kind of makes you feel like :banghead: , but the 1st is a necessary evil.
 
I think I remember a "Family Guy" episode where they were survivors of a WMD holocaust of some sort, and after rebuilding civilization, the townspeople were in horror that the Dad has started up the old gun factory. They closed it down, and just as they threw the last of the firearms in the fire to make society safe, they were attacked by mutant babies and slaughtered because they just destroyed their only hope of self defense.

I also had my son tell me of a similar episode of Simpsons, where guns are universally disposed of in the world, and Homer has to time travel back to shoot some bad guys, who were wreaking havoc in the present.

I can't say I have watched more than three episodes of either, so maybe the preponderance of views may be slanted one way or the other, but it seems to me that they gore everybody's ox at one time or another. I tend to see more instances of my oxen getting it more, but I think that is human nature.
 
Here is a synopsis of another Simpson episode called "The Cartridge Family":

Homer and Marge make up, but while walking through the lobby to leave, Snake comes in to rob the desk clerk, demanding the cash register's contents while holding a knife to Mayor Quimby's neck. Homer pulls out his gun and disrupts the robbery. Marge, instead of thanking Homer for stopping the robbery, yells at Homer for lying to her again. Snake grabs the gun from a distracted Homer and loads it, planning to shoot everyone. However, all the local NRA members charge into the motel and run Snake off (but not before he makes off with the money).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cartridge_Family
 
This is actually a really old episode, I believe it was aired back in 97 or so. I remember watching it, I never thought of it as anti-gun. In truth there are idiots out there that abuse guns, and I found the episode entertaining. Just watch it for what it is, not politics.
 
Using a Simpsons episode to advocate for gun control is like using a Yogi Bear cartoon to advocate for changes in game laws. But it is an interesting window into the mind of an anti. They have the minds of children, and cartoons appeal to them. Remember the infamous South Park ripoff cartoon Moore included in "Bowling for Columbine"? I lost count of the number of antis I've argued with who took it to be an accurate history of the US and NRA.
 
believe it was aired back in 97 or so. I remember watching it, I never thought of it as anti-gun. In truth there are idiots out there that abuse guns, and I

Yeah, I never thought it was anti-gun. I'm a huge Simpsons fan(funniest show ever). If you watch the rest of the episode, a would-be robbery is foiled because of Homer's gun. Even the anti(Marge) picks up the gun at the end and feels the self reliance flowing through her veins as she pulls it out of the trash and puts it in her purse. Also, on that episode, there's a NRA meeting in Homer's house and the other members are shocked to learn of Homer's irresponsible gun handling and deride him for it. If i'm not mistaken, Matt Groening is Pro.
 
Hell, I've quoted that simpsons episode many times. Don't forget, at the end, when Marge tries to throw the gun away, she catches a reflection of herself in the trach can lid of her holding the gun, and she gets captivated by it and cannot bring herself to get rid of it.

Somebody chopped that episode up Michael Moor style, leading to mis-interpretation.

I love the simpsons, and I thought that episode was hilarious.
 
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