Sprout
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Will an ultrasonic cleaner harm the polycoat finish, like the kind put on a CZ?
Simple Green for Gun Cleaning
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Simple Green an Ultrasonic Cleaning
Hi to All: You folks are a wealth of information. After years of getting ridiculous advice from gun shops it is so refreshing to find a source for useful information. I'm going to stick with M-Pro 7. This stuff works extremely well though it is expensive. It has never harmed any of my guns, including the pistol with the Black-T finish, or my Trijicon night sights.
P7
Hi to All: You folks are a wealth of information. After years of getting ridiculous advice from gun shops it is so refreshing to find a source for useful information. I'm going to stick with M-Pro 7. This stuff works extremely well though it is expensive. It has never harmed any of my guns, including the pistol with the Black-T finish, or my Trijicon night sights.
P7
JNewell
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I like M7 alot. My only beefs are (1) cost, (2) it is water-based, so you need to get things dry when finished, and (3) I don't find it terribly effective on powder fouling in bores. If I had the loot, I'd use it in an u/s and be quite happy.
Will Fennell
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Mpro7
I've had good results with MPro7.....come on guys, its designed for firearms...I'm willing to pay for somebody else to do the R&D to make sure my guns are cleaned and safe.
On my very busy gun cleaning bench...
MPro7
Tuf Glide from Sentry Solutions
Hi-Slip Grease from Sentry
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Sweats 7.62
Hoppes #9
JB Compound
I've been trying to clean off the rest of the "other stuff"....but I keep geting new stuff somehow.
Lately, I've been trying the new Hoppe's Elite set of oils and cleaners.....the cleaners are showing great promise.
My car may be dirty as ....byt my guns are clean!
I've had good results with MPro7.....come on guys, its designed for firearms...I'm willing to pay for somebody else to do the R&D to make sure my guns are cleaned and safe.
On my very busy gun cleaning bench...
MPro7
Tuf Glide from Sentry Solutions
Hi-Slip Grease from Sentry
FP10
Sweats 7.62
Hoppes #9
JB Compound
I've been trying to clean off the rest of the "other stuff"....but I keep geting new stuff somehow.
Lately, I've been trying the new Hoppe's Elite set of oils and cleaners.....the cleaners are showing great promise.
My car may be dirty as ....byt my guns are clean!
Brian Dale
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wintermute76,
Halogens — chlorine, bromine (don't get any on ya) and so forth — are great oxidizers, too; so are organic peroxides (like benzoyl peroxide: "OXY-100" would do a lot worse than curing acne). That's why there was chlorine bleach around long before oxygen bleach showed up at the supermarket.
That's why you don't ever want to have bleach in the room with your guns: rust can form quickly, even from bleach fumes in the air. If you have a "utility sink" in the house, put the bleach somewhere else and wash your hands before you handle any metal that you care about (OT: except pure gold; one of its famous characteristics is its ability to resist attacks even by most strong acids).
An oxidation reaction would occur if someone were to put a lump of sodium metal into an atmosphere of pure chlorine. No oxygen needed: the likely result would be a BIG Ka-BOOM!!!! and some table salt left in the wreckage.
Don't try this at home. In fact, don't try it anywhere. Ever.
Stay well.
Nope — oxidation's a chemical reaction with certain molecular events where one atom gets stuck to another atom in a particular way. The details are boring to most people. It's called oxidation because the way it occurs was discovered and first studied in chem. rxns. where oxygen is the "oxidizing agent." Think of rust. The oxide that you get is more chemically stable than a mixture of iron and oxygen in contact with each other. Water or salt solutions on iron or steel just speed up the reaction a lot. Energy is given off in the reaction as heat.
Halogens — chlorine, bromine (don't get any on ya) and so forth — are great oxidizers, too; so are organic peroxides (like benzoyl peroxide: "OXY-100" would do a lot worse than curing acne). That's why there was chlorine bleach around long before oxygen bleach showed up at the supermarket.
That's why you don't ever want to have bleach in the room with your guns: rust can form quickly, even from bleach fumes in the air. If you have a "utility sink" in the house, put the bleach somewhere else and wash your hands before you handle any metal that you care about (OT: except pure gold; one of its famous characteristics is its ability to resist attacks even by most strong acids).
An oxidation reaction would occur if someone were to put a lump of sodium metal into an atmosphere of pure chlorine. No oxygen needed: the likely result would be a BIG Ka-BOOM!!!! and some table salt left in the wreckage.
Don't try this at home. In fact, don't try it anywhere. Ever.
Stay well.
sm
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Will Fennell "New stuff" showing up I understand. Shooter's kits, winning those raffles at shoots, gifts...
I Started giving cleaning stuff away to new shooters, years ago. In fact a few of us went thru "all that stuff" and using cigar boxes just made up basic kits. These kits we gave to the ladies taking CCW classes, usually the single ladies and single moms. Women don't seem to get all caught up in the cleaning products , show them what to do , they do it, and if a question comes up, they ask. Of course these ladies are great students, easier to teach and spend money on ammo. They would rather spend $11 on value pak ammo and shoot than $11 on fretting over solvents, oils, this and that.
Probably why they outshoot the hubby or BF.
Boy/Girl Scout troops are another group that appreciate having cleaning and ammo donated.
Gold and Cholorine While gold is "resistant" don't mix cholorine and gold. Swimming , household cleaning and the like. The solders that are used to hold shanks to heads ( mounting - prongs) where the rings are sized, prongs retipped, re-pronged... can be attacked by the cholorine, break it down and cause REAL problems.
Just a precaution to prevent the loss or damage to valuables...not just monetary, sentimental as well. Besides, fixing and replacing this jewelry cuts into the firearm budget.
I Started giving cleaning stuff away to new shooters, years ago. In fact a few of us went thru "all that stuff" and using cigar boxes just made up basic kits. These kits we gave to the ladies taking CCW classes, usually the single ladies and single moms. Women don't seem to get all caught up in the cleaning products , show them what to do , they do it, and if a question comes up, they ask. Of course these ladies are great students, easier to teach and spend money on ammo. They would rather spend $11 on value pak ammo and shoot than $11 on fretting over solvents, oils, this and that.
Probably why they outshoot the hubby or BF.
Boy/Girl Scout troops are another group that appreciate having cleaning and ammo donated.
Gold and Cholorine While gold is "resistant" don't mix cholorine and gold. Swimming , household cleaning and the like. The solders that are used to hold shanks to heads ( mounting - prongs) where the rings are sized, prongs retipped, re-pronged... can be attacked by the cholorine, break it down and cause REAL problems.
Just a precaution to prevent the loss or damage to valuables...not just monetary, sentimental as well. Besides, fixing and replacing this jewelry cuts into the firearm budget.
Brian Dale
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Thanks, sm; I didn't mean to lead people astray with my comment; your post is clearer.
sm
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Happy Bob,
You were quite clear, thank you for a good post
I used to work with precious metals ( gold ) and just took the opportunity to go OT to just to point the chlorine /solder problems. IN the past some "helpful hints" in newprint have given false info. We have folks here at THR that have jlry, chlorine and guns...go swimming, clean house, do laundry...just being responsible , tho' not about firearms.
You were quite clear, thank you for a good post
I used to work with precious metals ( gold ) and just took the opportunity to go OT to just to point the chlorine /solder problems. IN the past some "helpful hints" in newprint have given false info. We have folks here at THR that have jlry, chlorine and guns...go swimming, clean house, do laundry...just being responsible , tho' not about firearms.
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