Sinclair Letter Re: Primer Availability

[1SOW]

After a tornado that knocked out power in Wichita Falls TX , one gas station was in operation and got 3-4X the going price per gallon.
After the shortage was over, that station went out of business in 30 days.
AMEN

 

[bhawkeye]

I understand the anger at manufacturers & dealers taking advantage of the surge in demand, by raising prices instead of production - but I don't understand the reloaders who are mad at other reloaders for correctly anticipating the tight supply & ordering enough to get them through the period of scarcity.

There would certainly not have been any sympathy for them, had they been wrong and there was no scarcity.

And REALLY - there's a BIG difference between being able to predict everything - and not being able to predict anything! It was pretty obvious who was the front runner for well over a year before the election - and his record on gun related issues was no secret.

I just hope that by the time the manufacturers solve the supply-demand issue - we still have the legal option to be reloaders. :banghead:

 

[jcwit]

And REALLY - there's a BIG difference between being able to predict everything - and not being able to predict anything! It was pretty obvious who was the front runner for well over a year before the election - and his record on gun related issues was no secret.

AS stated before not everyone knew that this was going to happen. Ever think about the new guy who might have gotten a reloading kit for Christmas? Or someone that has started reloading for whatever reason.

Maybe we should just take the previous attidude of "to hell with them". What a way to grow our sport and hobbies.

When all this gets sorted out and the problem is taken care of I suppose my attidude should be "to hell with all of you who were a$$'$ in the shortage.

Remember roses have Thorn's!

 

[jcwit]

Yep, that's the way I see it.
Most of the whining about hoarding comes from those that failed to adequately prepare. It was no secret last summer that a new Administration would likely cause a shortage of ammo and components. As the old adage goes, "you snooze, you loose".

Besides, I don't hear any of the primer manufacturers complaining...do you

I feel sorry for you and your selfrightous, selfish, and self centered attidude. But we will always have this problem, human nature I guess. Goes to show how imperfect we really are.

 

[Horsemany]

I feel sorry for you and your selfrightous, selfish, and self centered attidude. But we will always have this problem, human nature I guess. Goes to show how imperfect we really are.

I couldn't agree more. Something tells me the shooters who help out other shooters aren't the ones who hoarded.

It's one thing to anticipate a shortage and buy more than one might normally. It's another thing to buy any primers you see saying "to hell with everyone else". The sport would be better off without people who think that way.

 

[USSR]

What's the difference between stockpiling and hoarding? Whether you have any primers or not.

Don

 

[freakshow10mm]

Stockpiling is when you buy ample supply to keep stock for the future. Also known as being prepared for future shortages that may occur.

Hoarding is when you buy stuff before someone else and they don't get what they want, throw a tantrum, and rock in the corner sucking their thumb.

Price gouging is any price that is higher than dirt ****ing cheap customers are willing to pay.

Hoarding and price gouging are terms usually used by gun owners who pretend to be capitalists but really believe in equal distribution of wealth, fair distribution of goods, and that life should be fair.

 

[jcwit]

What's the difference between stockpiling and hoarding? Whether you have any primers or not.

Stockpliers will more than likely help out their fellow shooters with components. Hoarders have the attidude of screw you, you didn't "prepare", even if you had no idea you needed to.

Hoarding and price gouging are terms usually used by gun owners who pretend to be capitalists but really believe in equal distribution of wealth, fair distribution of goods, and that life should be fair

Your opinion only.

 

[jr45]

I would recommend people to wait it out before paying $100 for 1k primers. I purchased mine over the past 2 year to last me for a while and I did share some of mine (about 2k) with fellow reloaders in my area. When the demand levels off, there will likely be a glut of primers on the market and the price will come down some. You will have individuals sitting on 50k+, 60K+, 100k+, etc. primers and what are they going to do with all of them?

 

[freakshow10mm]

Yes it is my opinion.

I'm sick and tired of all the whining about shortages, higher prices, people buying up what's in stock and not leaving any for others. If you didn't have enough on hand for your needs it isn't anyone else's fault but your own. I'm not in the sympathy business.

 

[Martyk]

Just sit tight... it will come back around. Primers are tough to find but not impossible. If you really can't wait, (which I wouldn't understand why it would become an emergency), you just need to put a little more effort into searching.

It took me a while, and it was tough but eventually I found what I needed. And if I didn't.. I would just go diving.

Freak - your hard core. Nothing you say is false, but you have to remember there are varying degrees of shooters out there. From the Hard Core, to the Weekender, to the once a month person.

The average guy was probably just working his ass off trying to make ends meet and pay his taxes instead of anticipating when the next ammo shortage was going to impact him.

 

[lgbloader]

I'm sick and tired of all the whining about shortages, higher prices, people buying up what's in stock and not leaving any for others. If you didn't have enough on hand for your needs it isn't anyone else's fault but your own. I'm not in the sympathy business.

But you are in business and that attitude, my friend, will make you lose customers.

LGB

 

[rdhood]

You will have individuals sitting on 50k+, 60K+, 100k+, etc. primers and what are they going to do with all of them?

Shoot them. Seriously. For this year, I have been shooting about 700 a month. That's 8400 per year. 100k would last about 12 years. The life span of primers is far longer than that.

 

[jr45]

Shoot them. Seriously. For this year, I have been shooting about 700 a month. That's 8400 per year. 100k would last about 12 years. The life span of primers is far longer than that.

I agree however; my point was that those individuals with that many primers will not be purchasing the ones on the market hence, more for the rest of us.

 

[freakshow10mm]

This is the gun industry. I don't cater to pansies or candyasses or cheap whiners. I do not want their support nor their money. If they want a shoulder to cry on, there are plenty of other businesses that will hold them and comfort them.

 

[iScream]

This is the gun industry. I don't cater to pansies or candyasses or cheap whiners. I do not want their support nor their money. If they want a shoulder to cry on, there are plenty of other businesses that will hold them and comfort them.

I don't really care how many of what someone may stock up on for their own needs. The only people I don't respect are the ones contributing to the problem by buying up supplies, then trying to sell at much higher prices. I'm not saying they're bad people or anything like that but they aren't the type of people I want to go shooting with or otherwise associate.

Sorry, but with such a distinctive company name, I will remember my distaste for your comments here for a long time and you won't see any of my money.

-Chris

 

[NorCalRanches]

Freakshow... I understand your position and support it, being a capitalist myself. But your attitude is going to bite you in the *ss. That kind of arrogance is not good for business.

While everything you said is true, think about people who are now suddenly interested in reloading and shooting sports. Only they cannot find the components or ammunition needed to enjoy it because some *sshole is buying all of it up to scalp on Gunbroker. That will kill any new interest in shooting very quickly.

We need new people and youth in shooting and reloading now more than ever. We should be trying to promote that rather than just saying your not in the sympathy business. Your in the gun business pal, but the people your giving the cold shoulder to could be your future customers.

 

[RedHawk357Mag]

Now what was that line spoken by SFC Hulka in the movie Stripes? When Hulka and the new recruits were bonding in the bay? I think it was "now easy Francis"

 

[apachejack]

WOW, I didn't know reloading would be so political. After reading all these threads I'd say there were as many opinions as people. I'd also say that Freakshow should help the guy in Grandbury Tx. run his shop.(refer to general discusion, radical gun shop owner) His mindset makes me say "God bless him" cause he needs it. I didn't hoard or stockpile and really don't care who did or didn't, these threads really show us all what we are made of.

 

[Martyk]

This is the gun industry. I don't cater to pansies or candyasses or cheap whiners. I do not want their support nor their money. If they want a shoulder to cry on, there are plenty of other businesses that will hold them and comfort them.

Ohh brother.. are you for real.. do you have a gun owner litmus test too? I guess all Harley Owners should have tattoo's and wear long beards too. Stick your head up out of your cave and take a breath of fresh air.

I'm not a candyass, and I can certainly take care of myself, and I think it sucks that some people want to load but can't because of the shortage. Which will pass I'm sure. It's like anything else.. if you don't like it.. tune out.

The hard-ass act really doesn't add anything here.

 

[lgbloader]

This is the gun industry. I don't cater to pansies or candyasses or cheap whiners. I do not want their support nor their money. If they want a shoulder to cry on, there are plenty of other businesses that will hold them and comfort them.

Okay, If you really feel that way, why don't you post it on your website. Let every single customer know how you really feel.

As you can see by the few responses your getting now... It's bad for business to wash your dirty laundry in public.

LGB

 

[CTPistol]

This is the gun industry. I don't cater to pansies or candyasses or cheap whiners. I do not want their support nor their money. If they want a shoulder to cry on, there are plenty of other businesses that will hold them and comfort them.




wow freakshow, I remember following along as you started up your little "freakshow" business and you got a lot of support here...

Let it be known I wont ever buy anything from you either. Good luck with that attitude.

 

[caymangone]

Unfortunately, for every idiot willing to pay the premium, there are at least two idiots willing to sell it to them. Just the way it is. People that are either desperate or have more money than common sense, are the one's feeding the gougers. And as long as they do, the gougers will keep gouging.
And for what it's worth, I won't be buying from Freakshow either with that attitude. There are plenty of other places to go.

 

[Redneck with a 40]

I'd classify myself as a "stockpiler", but I didn't contribute to the current shortage, as I did most of my buying 18 month's ago, long before the election. I'm sittting on 2500 round of 7.62x39 that I bought for $175/case, now so called "capitalist's" are trying to sell for $400/case, lol. I also bought 2 cases of Wolf small pistol primers, at $21/brick, a year ago.

A fellow co-worker of mine is setting up to reload, but he can't find any small pistol primers, so I sold him one of my bricks, for $21. Helping a fellow shooter out, not ripping him off, it advances the sport.

I personally would be really pissed off if I were standing in line to buy some ammo, and the jerk in front of me buys every box on the shelf.

If primer's return to the shelve's by year's end, which I really hope, I have enough supply to wait this rediculous situation out.

 

[freakshow10mm]

I won't lose any sleep over it caymangone.