Smith and Wesson HUGE problem. Please help.

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My Smith and Wesson Victory 22lr pistol either keeps jamming or not feeding properly. At first I was using Federal 40 grain lead tip rounds. I went through 800 of those. I took my pistol home and deep cleaned it. The first time I cleaned it I used Shooters Lube and the second time I used Hoppes Paste. I also switched to Aguilars 40 grain copper tips. Still not feeding properly. My best friend just bought the same pistol and he couldn't get off two rounds in a row. At one point we had to dissamble it because a round was so badly stuck. And his ammo was very expensive.

Any thoughts? Two identical guns and same problem.
 

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Not sure why it would be doing that. Mine runs fine. I wonder if tour muzzle brake is causing the issues. Does your buddy have a brake on his too? My one Walther would not cycle with a brake on it. Until i changed the recoil spring. Walther sent me the spring after i told them my issue.
 
doubleh said:
According to the Victory shooters over on that rimfire forum simply by bending the extractor a tiny bit takes care of the problem which seems quite common with these pistols. Just go to the S$W sub forum.
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Thanks man
 
doubleh said:
According to the Victory shooters over on that rimfire forum simply by bending the extractor a tiny bit takes care of the problem which seems quite common with these pistols. Just go to the S$W sub forum.
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How do I find that forum?
 
MR WICK said:
My Smith and Wesson Victory 22lr pistol either keeps jamming or not feeding properly. At first I was using Federal 40 grain lead tip rounds. I went through 800 of those. I took my pistol home and deep cleaned it. The first time I cleaned it I used Shooters Lube and the second time I used Hoppes Paste. I also switched to Aguilars 40 grain copper tips. Still not feeding properly. My best friend just bought the same pistol and he couldn't get off two rounds in a row. At one point we had to dissamble it because a round was so badly stuck. And his ammo was very expensive.

Any thoughts? Two identical guns and same problem.
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Both those ammos aren’t that great. My Ruger Mark IV jams a lot with bulk ammo especially Aguila. With CCI and minimags it often is 100% reliable per session
 
Autodidactic said:
Both those ammos aren’t that great. My Ruger Mark IV jams a lot with bulk ammo especially Aguila. With CCI and minimags it often is 100% reliable per session
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^^^^^^ This ^^^^^^
We took a Beretta 21A on trade a few years ago and I bought it. I stopped at the range before going home and I had a couple of boxes of Federal in the truck and one box o CCI. I couldn't get three shots in a row without a jamb with the federal. I ran a full box of CCI through without a hiccup.
 
Old_Grouch said:
^^^^^^ This ^^^^^^
We took a Beretta 21A on trade a few years ago and I bought it. I stopped at the range before going home and I had a couple of boxes of Federal in the truck and one box o CCI. I couldn't get three shots in a row without a jamb with the federal. I ran a full box of CCI through without a hiccup.
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Right, it's unfortunate. I think this is more true in semi-auto handguns in .22 lr as they get smaller, than rifles. I bought a 10/22 first, and it ran virtually all ammo besides a bad box of Armscor. Then I bulked up including on Aguila and Federal, after testing it in my 10/22. It was a major bummer to find out my big stock of cheap Aguila didn't run will in the Mark IV. Every mag practically something went wrong. That's okay though.

This is why I also stocked up a bit on minimags and other CCI. If I ever had to use a .22 LR for defense, I'd 100% use minimags.
 
One of the standard extraction fixes for the 10/22 was to set it in a vise (extractor) and give the outer edge a smack with a hammer, causing the hook portion to be angled downward just a wee bit more. The hook edge remains straight but at a more severe angle, holding the rim closer to the breech face.

Most aftermarket replacement extractors follow this same geometry model, some by being slightly shorter or employing a more aggressive angle. I’ve suffered the same fate as yours MRWICK before tuning my rimfire pistols so take heart, the solutions are generally easy enough for the DIY’er and the wallet.


This flat is where the strike is concentrated (BuckMark extractor).
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Usually a swift blow with a (bigger) hammer does the trick. I opted for an aftermarket on my Browning.
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One more thing, as I’m not overly familiar with the Smith; my BuckMark had feed problems in addition to extraction when new as well. While waiting on stronger magazine springs I stretched the OEM ones to provide more upward pressure. These two things fixed my issues permanently and I love my Browning now.
 
my victory had some problems with extraction the first range session.i put CLP on the spring of the extractor and wiggled it back and forth. had no problems after.
 
FYI: no extractor was actually hammered on by me in those pictures, I replaced my Browning’s extractor with a Volquartsen Exact Edge. Didn’t feel like getting the torch out or tempering the part after when VQ had the part on clearance.
 
My brand new Victory was an absolute disaster. I brought it back to the shop that sold it, and their gunsmith worked on it for hours, just to get it to fire more than one round without a jam. Extractor was bad, ramp needed work, chamber was rough, etc. The shop has since stopped carrying that pistol as they have had so many QC problems of late.
 
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>>According to the Victory shooters over on that rimfire forum simply by bending the extractor a tiny bit takes care of the problem which seems quite common with these pistols<<

This is where most of the problems with the Victory lie. I had the same issue, and judicious tweaking seemed to solve the problem. I got rid of the gun anyway, as to me it seemed cheaply made and not worth the aggravation. Naturally, there are those out there that have had no problems with them, so it may just be the luck of the draw.
 
Before you do anything else, I suggest you field strip and completely dry the oil off everything you've lubed. Especially any parts having to do with extraction, ejection and feeding. Then try shooting it again. Overlubrication is the primary cause of many rimfire semi-auto woes.
 
I wish I could help. I bought this one used, so someone else may have worked the kinks out. I put a bunch of Tandemkross parts in it before I ever shot it. And it runs absolutely flawless, lubed, dry, Stingers, Hi Vel, Stand Vel. Runs everything. Just like the Rugers pictured, accuracy wise it has some ammo likes. 25 yard 10 shot groups.


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