owenbright
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What do you prefer? (and why?)
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Snubbie for CCW: bobbed vs regular hammer?
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Vern Humphrey
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I prefer a standard hammer, for the reasons they were put there, to allow single action shooting if necessary.
If I carried in my pocket without an in-the-pocket holster, I'd probably want the hammer bobbed.
If I carried in my pocket without an in-the-pocket holster, I'd probably want the hammer bobbed.
johnny blaze
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Sometimes the bobbed hammer is actually useless as it is too short to fire single action. I have seen several that are cut too short.
I prefer the shrouded hammer. You can fire it double or single action, and if you want to carry in your pocket, it is fine. I know alot of people will probably say that a shrouded hammer will collect lint and not fire. Not much evidence to support that theory. If you wear it in a holster, the lint is not a problem.
A full hammer is fine, if you are going to side carry.
I prefer the shrouded hammer. You can fire it double or single action, and if you want to carry in your pocket, it is fine. I know alot of people will probably say that a shrouded hammer will collect lint and not fire. Not much evidence to support that theory. If you wear it in a holster, the lint is not a problem.
A full hammer is fine, if you are going to side carry.
Vern Humphrey
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I'd like t point out that lint certainly can jam a revolver -- I've gotten in trouble here many times for claiming that revolver reliability isn't all that it's cracked up to be.
If you pocket carry, you should definitely clean your revolver frequently and carefully -- and use a holster.
It goes without saying that pocket carry requires you dedicate the pocket to carrying a gun, and have no extraneous junk in that pocket with your gun.
If you pocket carry, you should definitely clean your revolver frequently and carefully -- and use a holster.
It goes without saying that pocket carry requires you dedicate the pocket to carrying a gun, and have no extraneous junk in that pocket with your gun.
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Bobbed or hammerless
SAWBONES
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I prefer a bobbed or covered or internal revolver hammer for CCW, even if carried in a belt holster, but especially if carried in a pocket.
The current internal hammer models are of course double action only, but if you really want the option of a cockable external hammer, yet without any chance of snagging on the draw, you might want to look at S&W's Bodyguard models.
The current internal hammer models are of course double action only, but if you really want the option of a cockable external hammer, yet without any chance of snagging on the draw, you might want to look at S&W's Bodyguard models.
norfdet893
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I prefer the bodyguard, which is the shrouded hammer. It is not because I am that interested in making a single action shot but because I find the trigger pull to be better than a concealed hammer version. I would recommend either a bodyguard version or a completely concealed hammer. Hammer spurs are nice and nostalgic but not really practical for CCW carry, they tend to snag on everything at the worst times.
I prefer no external hammer for the same reason that I would not want large, sharp edged adjustable sights on a J frame, two inch revolver. That hammer can catch on all types of stuff when you are in a hurry or under stress. Further, it is a little easier to shoot from inside your coat pocket without that hammer hanging up, if you have the internal hammer. Snub, double action, carry revolvers are not really designed for accurate single action fire.
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Lint does'nt accumulate just in a belly button.
The exposed hammer offers the option of a little extra leverage to index the cylinder WHEN, not IF, the internals gets a bunch of lint around indexing parts. I 'spect not many folks remove the side plates to clean the 'pocket pistol'.
The shrouded hammer offers the best of each, but offers a large opening for more lint to get inside of the lockwork.
Internal hammer lets less stuff get inside.
Nothing is perfect and its all a trade off.
My J Frames are Airweight 638s with the top of the front sight polished kinda 'shiny' and my bride's red fingernail polish on the ramp. I can 'thumb cock' or DAO.
We have a genuine prancing pony shroud for my bride's Cobra, but she preferes it as is w/o the shroud.
salty.
The exposed hammer offers the option of a little extra leverage to index the cylinder WHEN, not IF, the internals gets a bunch of lint around indexing parts. I 'spect not many folks remove the side plates to clean the 'pocket pistol'.
The shrouded hammer offers the best of each, but offers a large opening for more lint to get inside of the lockwork.
Internal hammer lets less stuff get inside.
Nothing is perfect and its all a trade off.
My J Frames are Airweight 638s with the top of the front sight polished kinda 'shiny' and my bride's red fingernail polish on the ramp. I can 'thumb cock' or DAO.
We have a genuine prancing pony shroud for my bride's Cobra, but she preferes it as is w/o the shroud.
salty.
Ala Dan
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Over the year's, I have carried both. All of my Colt's, and most of my S&W's
have hammers; the only exception being my S&W 642. With that said, I find
myself carrying it most of the time when I seek the services of a snubby~!
have hammers; the only exception being my S&W 642. With that said, I find
myself carrying it most of the time when I seek the services of a snubby~!
BADUNAME13
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Shrouded.
Best of both worlds AND a better griping area.
Best of both worlds AND a better griping area.
ArchAngelCD
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Buy a S&W M638 and get the best of both worlds, a shrouded hammer!
mjrodney
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Another vote for the Model 638.
Single action is still available, and the shrouded hammer slides in and out of your pocket with ease.
Single action is still available, and the shrouded hammer slides in and out of your pocket with ease.
ronto
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Bobbed
In the vast majority of SD situations you won't be firing SA anyway...Also better to practice in DA for the reason stated above...Less of a chance to snag.
In the vast majority of SD situations you won't be firing SA anyway...Also better to practice in DA for the reason stated above...Less of a chance to snag.
I've carried either a 49 or 649 everyday since 1975 as my backup, off duty, and undercover gun. In uniform they almost always rode in an ankle rig and were subjected to mud, dust, and snow. I've carried them every place on your body you can imagine and some places you might not imagine. They've gone with me everywhere in every kind of mud, crud, and stuff while doing manhunts in some pretty cruddy conditions wading thru muddy river bottoms, etc. They always work. Those who think lint will get in the lock work have never carried the humpbacks. There's no more room for lint to get in than any other gun. I've treated my 49/649 like I did my primary duty gun. I check them over at the end of the shift and give them a wipe down if needed.
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shrouded or bobbed for ccw
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I like the shrouded hammer of the 642 & 442. Nothing to get caught up on.
ArchAngelCD
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Nothing on the M638 to get caught either.
thebaldguy
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I like the shrouded hammer and the hammerless models. A bobbed hammer still has a lot of exposed movement.
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bobbed hammer-DAO lockwork
Keeps you out of more lawsuits - forces you to become a better instinctive shooter and does not interfere with slow aimed fire if the action has received the proper ministrations of a competent wheel gun smith.
Keeps you out of more lawsuits - forces you to become a better instinctive shooter and does not interfere with slow aimed fire if the action has received the proper ministrations of a competent wheel gun smith.
geekWithA.45
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Hammers really do snag pretty badly on the draw from pockets or thunderware.
I can do without that.
Hammers really do snag pretty badly on the draw from pockets or thunderware.
I can do without that.
Glockman17366
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"Hammers really do snag pretty badly on the draw from pockets or thunderware."
As far as pocket carry, it depends on the holster. The Galco holster is cut low to allow an easier draw. The downside is twofold: more snagging and wear on the trouser pocket. The Mikas neatly covers the gun and fills the pocket more, hence less snagging. But it does take a bit more to draw.
No comment on the thunderware...never used it.
As far as pocket carry, it depends on the holster. The Galco holster is cut low to allow an easier draw. The downside is twofold: more snagging and wear on the trouser pocket. The Mikas neatly covers the gun and fills the pocket more, hence less snagging. But it does take a bit more to draw.
No comment on the thunderware...never used it.
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