So much for the Bush military service brouhaha...

[papaone]

Bush now

At least under our present president, two terrorist nations have been defeated. He didn't tie the hands of our forces and he let the generals fight the war. He did not just lob a few missles at the enemy for a feel good response like the COWARD Klinton. He took his job seriously and gave the Moslem fanatics hell to pay.

Why not just give honor to whom honor is due.

Bountyhunter: I do not know you and so I am asking this question, not as a potential putdown, but what is your military history. I was in
the Air Force and did not see combat as there were no wars being fought at the time. I have an honorable discharge.

Thanks for your kind response.

 

[ojibweindian]

Demal

I can answer that for you.

His father was a decorated war hero and his wife serves in the Navy.

His words:

I would have been the third except I had the blind luck of getting a high draft lottery number, or I would have been on the next boat to that dump.

comes from this thread:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=63901&perpage=25&pagenumber=4

A question for BH;
Why did you wait for the draft to take you? If you wanted to serve, you could have volunteered. I did, my mother and father did, and my youngest brother did.

 

[Thumper]

Good research, ojibwe.

Telling.

 

[ojibweindian]

Thumper

Thanks.

It is telling, isn't it?

 

[yayarx7]

Having been both active duty and reserve, I can see why some have expressed opinions they have. It will have to suffice to say I Have a very low regard for those who downplay the role of the reserve components in the defense of our country. Even if I was guilty of it in the past when I was active.

I will "Take the High Road" on the other issues here, difficult as it is.

 

[papaone]

ojibweindian

Thanks for the response.

 

[bountyhunter]

I answer any fair question:

A question for BH;
Why did you wait for the draft to take you? If you wanted to serve, you could have volunteered. I did, my mother and father did, and my youngest brother did.;

Let's see. One brother volunteered for two tours and came home physically OK, but with some screws loose (moved to Florida and became a Jehovah's witness). Other brother in. Father 100% disabled from heart attack after his 33 years of military service (retired about six years prior, but didn't get to enjoy the retirement long).

Here's your answer as to why I didn't enlist:

WE GAVE ENOUGH.

By the law, I stood under the draft lottery in my year of eligibilty the same as everybody else did that year and drew number 225. They drafted up to number 175 that year. So, one member of the family didn't go to war... which is 100% irrelevant to the fact I spent my whole life in a service family and suffered the same life style. And is also completely irrelevant to the question of whether or not George W Bush fulfilled his service committments in Alabama or blew it off because nobody cared. That is the question raised in this thread, and nobody has proven that one yet.



From san Jose Mercury News search today:

1. Dentist Doesn't Remember Treating Bush
ALLEN G. BREED / Associated Press
The White House released dental records intended to support President Bush's account of his Air National Guard service in Alabama, while several members of the Guard unit said in interviews they don't remember ever seeing Bush at their Montgomery base. ... and Wednesday had proven that Bush fulfilled his military obligation. McClellan said requests ...
Thursday, February 12, 2004


6. Payroll records leave gap in Bush's military career
By Ron Hutcheson / Knight Ridder
President Bush on Tuesday released payroll records and other documents tracking his service in the National Guard during the Vietnam War, but the paper trail didn't close all the gaps in his military record.
Wednesday, February 11, 2004 (Mercury News)

7. Bush moved to Alabama unit without Air Force permission
BY LARRY COHLER-ESSES AND BOB PORT / New York Daily News
George W. Bush left his Texas Air National Guard assignment and moved to Alabama in 1972 even though the Air Force denied his request for a transfer, according to his military records. ... was AWOL - has prodded records documenting his service into public scrutiny. While they ...
Wednesday, February 11, 2004

 

[ojibweindian]

And is also completely irrelevant to the question of whether or not George W Bush fulfilled his service committments in Alabama or blew it off because nobody cared.

But it is completely relevant; it goes to your credibility.

By the law, I stood under the draft lottery in my year of eligibilty the same as everybody else did that year and drew number 225.

Bush did more than wait for the draft to take him. He volunteered. You want to disparage a man who did serve his country, but cry foul when your contribution to the defense of our nation is called into question. Highly hypocritical.

 

[HunterGatherer]

Unless someone comes forward with proof Bush was 'riding the waves' during the Vietnam years, bh just ain't gonna be happy

That might depend on what wave Bush may have been riding.


*nudge-nudge, wink-wink, know what I mean?* lol

 

[thefitzvh]

1. Dentist Doesn't Remember Treating Bush

Ok.... if you were a dentist, would you remember treating one particular LT 30 some years ago?

I worked in the Army Honor guard for a while. I couldn't name to you ONE PERSON that I did a funeral for.

6. Payroll records leave gap in Bush's military career

Gaps in records don't mean a thing. I've only been in since 2000, and I still have GAPS in my record, which I am trying to fix.

7. Bush moved to Alabama unit without Air Force permission

Already been refuted. He recieved permission from his commander to go there.

WE GAVE ENOUGH

So, you gave enough because EVERYONE BUT YOU SERVED.

But bush DID serve, and he didn't give enough

Sounds like, even if he only served for one day, that's STILL more than you, so the WE GAVE ENOUGH statement has no weight.

You're scrambling for everything you can get here...

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Criticise bush for bad policy, criticize him for bad intel, but he DAMN SURE served his country. More than most of the people that sit around and criticize his service.

James

 

[jimpeel]

This is a sure fire flame-bait thread led, of course, by the usual suspects.

I'm outa here.

 

[PATH]

It looks like the DEm's are gonna play really dirty this time out.

The bottom line is that no one can prove Bush did anything wrong. PERIOD!

The Dem's should watch out because dirty politics goes both ways and I think John Kerry's liberal record and his anyti-military stances are going to come to the fore.

The party has moved so far to the left that it is playing in the bullpen. It is not my fathers Democratic party. It has been hijacked by the lunatic fringe.
Don't care to engage in flames but I'm a voting for George!

 

[Sean Smith]

So, one member of the family didn't go to war... which is 100% irrelevant to the fact I spent my whole life in a service family and suffered the same life style.

Bull. You were along for the ride. Not at all the same thing.

 

[Art Eatman]

Nuff.

Art